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This user added similar content originally added by Ragnimo now the user has joined a talk page dispute discussion to take sides with Ragnimo. Both are in Norway. Ragnimo has history of socking in this topic area. See my previous report on the WP:Duck edits of this IP/User. Basically this user has fringe Somali nationalist POV that differs largely from the view of the wikipedia community hence they attempt to enforce this on the pages by any means including socking, this RFC is an example of Ragnimo's stand in which he was socking while it was active. Jasakaly886/Ragnimo indulge in battleground type behavior and lashes out about Ethiopian bias/pov. More evidence on the horn of africa article, Ragnimo added content about Macrobia back in november, Jasakaly adds a Macrobia redirect in feburary  This is becoming disruptive to the encylopedia. User:Yamla, can you please take a look at this? Magherbin (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * - there's obviously been logged-out editing going on, and there's overlap in the editing interests - CU would be helpful here.  Girth Summit  (blether)  22:46, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * - Mz7 (talk) 21:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * . Ragnimo and Jasakaly886 both geolocate to the same area, but one account always edits from a computer while the other always edits from a phone. Interestingly, the Jasakaly886 account is ✅ to (CU data exists for Sahasu because of logins). This Sahasu account was blocked by the Arbitration Committee all the way back in January 2020, predating the creation of the Ragnimo account. If we decide that Jasakaly886 is a sockpuppet of Ragnimo, it seems that that would mean Sahasu is the true sockmaster of both accounts. Looking at Special:Contributions/Sahasu, it seems that when they were active, Sahasu was also interested in Somalia-related articles. . Mz7 (talk) 22:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and placed a CheckUser block on Jasakaly886 in light of the technical connection to Sahasu. I have an idea of how to close out this case, but as a sanity check, I would first like another admin or clerk to give their thoughts on the case to see if they align with mine. Mz7 (talk) 22:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm inclined to say that Sahatsu != Ragnimo. Sahatsu's writing is, to be blunt, much worse than Ragnimo's. I initially ascribed that to editing on phone vs computer, but even looking at Sahatsu rather than Jasakaly, the writing is still different; while both have grammar/punctuation issues, Sahatsu is prone to run-on sentences and a lot more typos. With that said, it's pretty clear both are Scandinavian folks with interest in the perpetually fraught Horn of Africa topic area. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:37, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That is an excellent point, and to be honest, I hadn't looked closely at the writing style before now. Good thing I asked for a sanity check, heh. I suppose then I would move this case under Sockpuppet investigations/Sahasu and close without action against Ragnimo. Mz7 (talk) 06:04, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * , out of curiosity, what were you thinking it was? GeneralNotability (talk) 13:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I was actually leaning towards calling Ragnimo related. What made it peculiar from a technical perspective was the close geographic association—the country that Ragnimo and Jasakaly886 share is rather interesting because I don't think we get a whole lot of editors from that country, especially ones who might be interested in a relatively niche topic like Adal Sultanate (I confess to being unfamiliar with the topic myself, so I could be wrong on this). However, as always, behavior should be the deciding factor. Mz7 (talk) 03:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Case moved. Tagging Jasakaly886 as a sock of Sahasu and closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:44, 24 October 2021 (UTC)