Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Saksihw/Archive

21 December 2015

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I question the statement on Кумкум's userpage and user talk page that purport that its a legitimate alternate account.

A seeming dispute occurred at Articles for deletion/Idriss Aberkane where it seemed two sides from the French Wikipedia came to dispute the deletion. Approximately six SPAs were involved: 3 for delete and 3 for keep. In the keep camp, Sockpuppet investigations/Timinette was opened up and endorsed by a clerk for approximately the same behavioural evidence being submitted here. Two accounts were found to possibly be related by. The third SPA had circumstantial evidence and I opted not to pursue a block on lack of evidence.

For this SPI, Кумкум, Saksihw, and Alaleutyr were all SPAs that supported each other at the AFD. All three of their edits surround Articles for deletion/Idriss Aberkane. Since suspected sock puppetry was found possible, I request a check be done for the other three SPAs in question. Mkdw talk 05:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd like to also ping for comments as they're familiar with the other related SPI.  Mkdw talk 06:01, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * They all have accounts by the same names on fr. Saksihw is by far the oldest account (dating back to 2007), Кумкум is a year old, and Alaleutyr only edited over a span of a couple days in November. But all of their contributions are much more varied there. I suspect meatpuppetry (or what amounts to nearly the same thing, the continuation of a multiparty conflict from fr to en) rather than sockpuppetry. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * In fr.wp I'm a 7-yo account with 7k contribs and my user page was very clear about this, and the two accounts relation (the main one and the one purposely created to manage the AfDs) is widely known (and this is not a lack of modesty) by us. I would have excepted at the least a message from you to ask questions. Kumʞum  ouatizite ? 15:29, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * - please, compare three accounts.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Кумкум and the accounts are ❌ to each other. Alaleutyr and Saksihw are editing from the same IP, but under different devices. So I'd say they're related.
 * ✅ as Saksihw
 * ✅ as Alaleutyr
 * is a ✅ match to Кумкум. I don't believe though that they were trying to violate the sockpuppetry policy. Elockid Happy holidays! 14:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ as Alaleutyr
 * is a ✅ match to Кумкум. I don't believe though that they were trying to violate the sockpuppetry policy. Elockid Happy holidays! 14:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * is a ✅ match to Кумкум. I don't believe though that they were trying to violate the sockpuppetry policy. Elockid Happy holidays! 14:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * is a ✅ match to Кумкум. I don't believe though that they were trying to violate the sockpuppetry policy. Elockid Happy holidays! 14:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I moved the case to Saksihw, as the oldest account. All CU confirmed accounts blocked and tagged. Connection between Alaleutyr and Saksihw is obvious. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)