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 * ( original case name. Mz7 (talk) 02:20, 26 April 2022 (UTC))


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see Draft:Gehad Hamdy, Draft:Gehad hamdy, Wikiepedia:Gehad Hamdy & Gehad Hamdy Minorax (talk) 09:37, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * added tags -- RoySmith (talk) 13:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

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recreated Draft:Speak Up اتكلم/ي with the same strange draft title, nearly identical content as well as Gehad Hamdy which also appears to be nearly identical. CUPIDICAE💕 16:06, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * The creation of identical (and oddly named) articles is very ducky. The old accounts are stale, but the information in the CU logs is consistent with this user being, who is blocked as a sock of the master. Blocked, closing. Girth Summit  (blether)  16:32, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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Brand new account, as soon as it got AC, created Speak Up Initiative/Speak Up (NGO) CUPIDICAE💕  16:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * -  Girth Summit  (blether)  18:06, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This account is ✅ to the following:
 * The MrJohnattedvx account is tagged as a sock of, and both of them share the editing interests of the accounts in this case. I'm going to block the unblocked accounts, but I think these cases should be merged/retagged. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * - please merge Sockpuppet investigations/Farah Elkholy with this case, and retag accordingly.  Girth Summit  (blether)  18:15, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Just came across another one:
 * I'm confident that it's them. Will also block and tag. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I blocked and tagged .--Bbb23 (talk) 13:02, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge completed, socks retagged. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 02:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm confident that it's them. Will also block and tag. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I blocked and tagged .--Bbb23 (talk) 13:02, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge completed, socks retagged. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 02:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge completed, socks retagged. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 02:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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see Draft:Speak Up Initiative CUPIDICAE💕  11:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * Kklo99 has now blanked the draft and copypasted it to new mainspace article Speak Up Initiative (Egypt).  --Finngall talk  16:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * ., closing. Mz7 (talk) 02:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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see Draft:Speak Up Initiative (Egypt) PRAXIDICAE💕  18:48, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Yup ., closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Gehad Hamdy and Draft:Speak Up Initiative, this farm's target. The latter was a perfectly formed albeit cite overkill draft Star   Mississippi  02:54, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * I can't confirm the connection technically, because this new account appears to be using proxies. However, the editing interests, and the fact that their drafts are nearly identical to previously deleted versions, leave no room for doubt - this is either a sock or it's meatpuppetry. Blocked, tagged as suspects; I've G5ed the draft, and salted the title.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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Gehad Hamdy (recognizing that CheckUser won't acknowledge the findings). Robert McClenon (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * I'll bite. Good enough for me to call WP:DUCK and for a week.  The SandDoctor  Talk 08:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

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Gehad Hamdy (recognizing that CheckUser won't acknowledge the connection). Robert McClenon (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * you SALTed Speak Up. If you concur with this report, mind doing the honors here too? I SALTed the mainspace already so not sure I'd be too Involved to do the same for draft. Star   Mississippi  23:49, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * So, having run CU on the blocked accounts, my hands are somewhat tied by policy when it comes to declaring whether or not IPs are socks - I'd rather another admin address that matter. However, if this draft is substantially the same as previous ones deleted as a result of an AfD discussion (I haven't checked whether that's the case), they'd be eligible for G4 speedy deletion, which would make the question of whether or not they were created by the same person moot - is that worth exploring? Girth Summit  (blether)  10:50, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's not a G4, unfortunately.
 * I guess the best hope is six months between identifiable socks and let it get handled via G13. Courtesy @Liz who correctly declined the G5 since it was the IP and not Toto.... who created this draft Star   Mississippi  13:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem is that they're creating it in mainspace too, see below. PRAXIDICAE💕  13:34, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * I'll bite. Good enough for me to call WP:DUCK and for a week.  The SandDoctor  Talk 08:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think this now satisfies the WP:G5 criteria? -- The SandDoctor Talk 08:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

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Waited to get AC and immediately recreated Speak Up (Egypt) PRAXIDICAE💕  13:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * This one I'm comfortable dealing with - ✅ to .  Girth Summit  (blether)  13:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

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Only activity has been to create Speak Up (Feminist Initiative) (and pretend that it was accepted via AFC). DanCherek (talk) 14:47, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * from a technical standpoint, but based on a comparison of the created article with previous drafts created by this master., closing. Mz7 (talk) 19:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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Recreated Draft:Speak Up Initiative (Egypt). --Finngall talk 16:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding another IP--109.68 created the new draft, 108.149 popped up to contest the G5 speedy. --Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  17:56, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * This lines up with previous creation by Handsometoby at Speak Up (Feminist Initiative). IPs for a week per WP:DUCK. Closing.  The SandDoctor  Talk 18:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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This account was created a couple of months after the last sockblock. They created Draft:Gehad Hamdy, a favorite subject of this sockfarm, in December, but not in a manner which made it obvious that this was just another sock. (And to be fair, this subject does not appear to be so far distant from notability that it would be unreasonable to have a draft at all, a previous AfD notwithstanding.). But today they recreated Abdelrahman ElGendy, another article first created by the master--this iteration was swiftly G4-speedied as a copy of that original version which had been deleted at AfD in October. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 16:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Adding User0name22 (created in August, a couple of weeks after the last round of blocks), who proceeded to recreate the ElGendy article in the same manner as Mr. White above. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  05:33, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * Is there any connection to Ypedia1? I noticed that they had similar comments to one of the sockpuppets on a draft they were both editing but it might be that the sock was just copying Ypedia1's words and putting them down as their own. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * I've had my eyes on that account for the same reason, and had same hesitation in filing. In addition to the creation referenced above, they also happened to find and redirect (admin goggles needed) the master's draft.   Star   Mississippi  18:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Walterwhite567 and User0name22 are ✅ to each other, and the following account is to them:  (note overlap with Walterwhite567 on Draft:Gehad Hamdy). The data is consistent with historical data for Salem Imam, but I would note that interestingly, there is a diversity of geolocations and other technical information for these accounts that make me wonder whether there could be some kind of account-sharing by multiple people going on here. In any case, . Closing. Mz7 (talk) 07:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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First edit is to create Draft:Gehad Hamdy. Do we have other new friends about? Star  Mississippi  00:57, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * Technically as ❌ as they possibly come to the last round and the ISP they're on is usually reliable. Use your judgement as to if there's another reason to block. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * With a negative CU result and just one edit to compare, there's not much we can conclude here. . MarioGom (talk) 00:00, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

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Only edits to date were to create Draft:Dr Gehad Hamdy, followed by further work on Draft:Gehad Hamdy. Quack, quack. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 15:09, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also created Huda El-Mufti; Huda El Mufti was another previous creation of the sockfarm. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  04:23, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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Also recently created Draft:Wegz; Wegz was apparently created by another sock at one point. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 16:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * from my accidental double filing Title shenanigans (Draft:Dr_Gehad_Hamdy) in addition to editing on Hamdy. A new editor doesn't know to use COI template in their first edit

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 * and I didn't technically file this one, so blocking as a normal admin action Star   Mississippi  00:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

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Attempted recreation of deleted page previously created by sockmaster at Draft:Wegz. LittlePuppers (talk) 04:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Addendum: on their talk page the user is claiming no connection to the previous drafts/articles. LittlePuppers (talk) 04:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * All previous accounts are stale now, so CU can't be performed. Newly created article is substantially different from those created by previous accounts. I'm closing this as there is no enough evidence of sockpuppetry.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  11:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)