Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SaltyBoatr/Archive

Report date March 22 2009, 18:48 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * Evidence submitted by 141.154.12.116

Both the Philo-Centinel and the Conlawgeek puppets have been concentrating on changing one section of the "Second Amendment" article to the exclusion of all else, with special attention paid to either getting rid of, or altering the phrase rights of British subjects to possess arms was recognized under English common law.

Examples of attempted changes (this is not a complete list of the attempts)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=275386940&oldid=275345474

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=275389102&oldid=275387203

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=275507289&oldid=275454378

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=276987343&oldid=276933228

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=277422837&oldid=277416822

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=277533569&oldid=277495029

The addition of SaltyBoatr comes because there has been mention on the Second Amendment talk page that he uses multiple puppets and both Philo-Centinel and Conlawgeek share his views.

Additional evidence

Today, April 2, 2009 Conlawgeek and SaltyBoatr are acting in concert to remove cited material from L. Spooner, considered by many to be one of the top legal thinkers of the mid-1800's.

Here conlawgeek corrupts the material, making it sound radical

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=281279929&oldid=281144412

and a couple of hours later SaltyBoatr deletes it

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&diff=281297608&oldid=281280306

For the record I am the person who originally asks for the investigation under IP 141.154.12.116 68.160.162.23 (talk) 15:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


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 * Comments by other users
 * Created per request at WT:SPI. §hep  Talk  18:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Requested by 141.154.12.116 (talk)
 * CheckUser requests

I see nothing in the evidence that particularly justifies CU Mayalld (talk) 20:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Additional information needed: Please provide a code letter. SPCUClerkbot (talk) 18:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * If this is socking SaltyBoatr would be the master account. Mayalld (talk) 15:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * (person who made this complaint)I believe Philo-Centinel and Conlawgeek are the the same person. I also think that SaltyBoatr is in some way connected to them, more in the way of a meat master (if that is the right way to say it), then as a sock master. He may be calling in friends or coworkers to come in if he is having a hard time getting support for his positions. From the person that originally filed this complaint.141.154.76.26 (talk) 12:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

clearly the accounts share a common viewpoint, but in any highly polarised debate, that will occur. Mayalld (talk) 06:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC) Mayalld (talk) 06:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have generated a report for this case.  Syn  ergy 16:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My initial thoughts here are that this is not socking, given the time spaces between edits by the suspected socks. If there was an intense debate at an article, I would generally expect the socks to all be active.  This may be more of a group of people all who happen to have the same interest or WP:MEAT.  MBisanz  talk 16:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions