Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Samar Layoun/Archive

18 February 2013

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I suspect that a user is using two accounts on one article, in an edit war, in order to make it seem as if two separate people are objecting. Argo333 (talk) 13:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Removal of large amounts of content by User:MariaFrangieh Removal of content on same article on the same day by User:Samar Layoun

Both users seem to focus on the articles Nabih Berri and Chateau Ksara.

Argo333 (talk) 16:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Now User:SSTUTTON is editing the same article. I would consider engaging in an edit war using three separate accounts to be highly abusive. Two the accounts imply two different persons, which would account as sock puppetry (Samar Layoun and Maria Frangieh - supposedly female Lebanese Christians, when most of Nabih Berri's ardent supporters, or anyone who would bother monitoring his article, are male Shi'ite Muslims). Argo333 (talk) 11:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * In the diff you provided to perhaps justify his/her actions, you may have not noticed that the user deleted two entire well-sourced paragraphs, which does not look like the actions of someone acting in good faith. Argo333 (talk) 19:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

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 * Hmmm, I didn't create the other account as a sock-puppet. Rather, I clearly stated on that account's page the purpose of that account, which I did not use to "reintroduce" anything. Please don't act in bad faith. Argo333 (talk) 17:41, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

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 * . Please use at least one diff from the master and at least one diff from the alleged sock to explain how the accounts may be operated by the same individual, and how they are being used abusively. WilliamH (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the diffs, however I must say that even if he has gone the wrong way about it, assuming this even is sockpuppetry, then he is absolutely 100% correct to remove a poorly sourced and potentially libelous edit as he did here. Where material concerns something contentious, I recommend that you discuss it on the talk page and arrive at some sort of consensus; obviously the same goes for him too. WilliamH (talk) 23:27, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The following are ✅ socks of Samar Layoun:
 * The socks must be blocked as normal, but I recommend that the master be left unblocked on the condition that he a) ceases abusing multiple accounts and b) takes his grievances to the article talk page and to the editor concerned. WilliamH (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * All blocked now. Jafeluv (talk) 17:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed that the other proponent in this dispute, Argo333, has also been socking, having created nine minutes after filing this SPI to reintroduce poorly sourced and BLP-problematic information. WilliamH (talk) 23:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * this link appears to have been disclosed on the userpage of the alt account. Might be worth suggesting to Argo that he disclose it on User:Argo333 as well. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:45, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've left Argo a message recommending that he more clearly disclose his alt account. I don't think there's any need to assume this is anything other than a legitimate alternative account, so no action needed on it currently. The socks of are also now all blocked and tagged, with the main account being left unblocked per WilliamH's recommendation. No further action needed - closing this SpitfireTally-ho! 12:31, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed that the other proponent in this dispute, Argo333, has also been socking, having created nine minutes after filing this SPI to reintroduce poorly sourced and BLP-problematic information. WilliamH (talk) 23:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * this link appears to have been disclosed on the userpage of the alt account. Might be worth suggesting to Argo that he disclose it on User:Argo333 as well. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:45, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've left Argo a message recommending that he more clearly disclose his alt account. I don't think there's any need to assume this is anything other than a legitimate alternative account, so no action needed on it currently. The socks of are also now all blocked and tagged, with the main account being left unblocked per WilliamH's recommendation. No further action needed - closing this SpitfireTally-ho! 12:31, 28 February 2013 (UTC)