Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Samej1902/Archive

20 August 2013

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has already admitted to operating the account (previously, since re-named and indeffed);  and  are, like Samej1902, SPAs which edit almost exclusively at articles relating to this AFD - all three claim to work in professional soccer or be 'soccer experts', all three seem obsessed with saving this article, all are unable to listen to counter-arguments from experienced editors. I've had suspicions for a few days now, based on slightly-too-similar editing behaviour, and at the very least this has got to be meatpuppetry. GiantSnowman 10:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * I stated behavioural and circumstantial evidence against Htownsports here: User talk:Samej1902. I think CoachJB is at least a meatpuppet and possibly a sock because of the single-purpose nature of edits: attempting to sway the AfD by adding "fully-professional" (a crux issue at the AfD) to team/league articles Georgeff played for, and by adding content to Talk:James Georgeff and my talk page promoting him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I must state again, I would like to fully cooperate to find the answers to this investigation, and in addition, if it is found that there is in fact no wrong doing, I would like to know how to raise an investigation on some level against the same user who seems to be personally attacking my user efforts and unduly making cyber threats to me, as in me feeling a 'boomerang' effect from him. I kindly ask the investigation to take into consideration the article this admin is constantly asking to be removed - which started with the reason of 'user is likely the writer and self promotional' to now 'doesn't satisfy notoriety' with it seems some extra attention... I am not sure as to why this extra attention seems to be made on my user material by this one particular user and some of his co-users but it seems, in a sport where wiki can have very high use for professional athletes, and worth very much in extra marketability to a starting out pro athlete, that something just doesn't seem to fit well with how close the attention to detail, and non detail this article - and even the persistence in trying to remove this article, as if, it doesn't fit for some reason - even where wiki criteria are shown to have been met, and how like examples of athletes from the same team as the subject with less achievement have bio's in wiki. It all sits very strange to me as a new user and expert in soccer. I welcome a very, very thorough inspection of all past happenings and kindly add that I render my IP address and personal computer information available for the use of this investigation. Thank you (Samej1902 (talk) 13:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC))
 * Comment - I am user (Samej1902 (talk) 13:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)). I operated the account ESP2Ngermanroo. I asked this account to be blocked by GiantSnowman, which he did. I started a new account (Samej1902 (talk) 13:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)). This is my only account - please feel free and have my permission to look at my IP address to verify this. I have not logged in (obviously to the ESP2NGermanroo account since it was blocked. This is my only account. I also see that the user "Htownsports" has offered his contact details on the article page I created - so this sorts out 3 of the 4 users. The other user I guess I could ask politely to confirm identity or IP address? This way, if it is seem that the user is in another country or continent... surely this shows it is not my, or a related account?...

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that checkuser is necessary here. Whether it is meatpuppetry or sockpuppetry will be irrelevant because the deception is apparent enough to warrant blocking either way. Blocking master one week and indeffing the socks/meats and closing.