Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/San culottes/Archive

20 September 2012

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The users are editing the same pages, like here and here. Those pages and rest of the pages that users edited, are part of the same scope - the Syrian civil war. The user "بروليتاريا" started to edit on 17 September as I recall, but he is neverthelss aware of my edit from 21 August when I reverted the user "حرية". This revert of my was reverted soon after, 9 minutes later to be precise by the user "حرية". Wüstenfuchs 16:47, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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Could you clarify why you think that the accounts are being used abusively? The edit histories look very similar, but the accounts have no overlapping history and I'm not spotting any attempt to use them in a deceptive way. Jafeluv (talk) 08:41, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's used abusively as it's not used for voting or reaching connesnsus, though I think they are both controlled by the same person. -- Wüstenfuchs  12:18, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Its only a problem if there is overlapping history. Its clear to me the creator of the account abandoned one account for another. There is no delete option for accounts, so he abandoned/ceased using the original one. Sopher99 (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

This user is also User:San culottes --80.13.250.40 (talk) 19:08, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

User:San culottes was blocked (24 hours I think) for edit warring as I recall due to my report and was also involved in the Syrian civil war topics. -- Wüstenfuchs  21:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I might also add that user بروليتاريا and user San culottes are leaving similiar comments (like here, here and here) beside both of those accounts were involved in the same topic. Also when San culottes recieved the 24 hours ban, user حرية visited my talk page and was questioning me, and I need to tell that at the time he was a new user who suddenly knew about me and my issue (I asked for the unblock). Is it usual that newly registered users visit other users' talk pages and are tracking what they are doing, because it's what user حرية did. I think that user حرية tried to get some sort of a revenge there... -- Wüstenfuchs  22:04, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Once again you fail to see that there is no overlapping history. Sun clottes stopped editing on August 1. Then the arabic-named user was created on August 3. Then that arabic user stopped editing on September 4, and a new account was created on September 17th. Each time the user had simply ceased and desisted editing. No overlapping history to alter any consensus or deceived editors. Just a change of account for an unspecified reason, but only because you can't manually delete accounts. Sopher99 (talk) 00:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * San culottes was indeed blocked for 48 hours for edit warring [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ASan+culottes], as a result of this report. حرية was created after San culottes's block expired, and has also been warned for edit warring. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=508024524][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=508550340] حرية hasn't edited after بروليتاريا was created on 17 September. Warnings for edit warring for the latter account: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=513591433&oldid=513415525]. Will need to look into this more closely. As a side note I'll say that the Syrian civil war articles look like quite the war zone lately, a situation not helped by the presence of a certain banned sockpuppeteer on the opposite(?) side. Jafeluv (talk) 12:10, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, yes... Syrian civil war topic is a war zone. I myself was banned few days ago due to edit warring so I try not to make any problems after that. However, other users seem not to care for that very much. -- Wüstenfuchs  13:31, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Also yesterday (24 September) user بروليتاريا erased the content from the San culottes' talk page --  Wüstenfuchs  16:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

According to WP:ILLEGIT, you're not supposed to be editing the same article with more than one account unless they are clearly linked. The three accounts have edited a lot of the same articles, and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:W%C3%BCstenfuchs&diff=prev&oldid=513749238 this] was their response to the sockpuppetry allegations. While there was no block evasion involved, abandoning the account after it was blocked for edit warring could very well be seen as evading scrutiny, especially since the later accounts have later been warned for the same behaviour. Requesting CU to take a look at the possible connection here. Jafeluv (talk) 06:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Named users are ✅ matches to one another. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 17:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged, evading scrutiny, indef for socks, 1 month for master with previous edit warring block. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 15:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)