Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sandesh9822/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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 * Too much behavioral similarities, same articles on enwiki and mrwiki, same time span of creation, edits,
 * No edit summaries, similar page renames can't show in differences or histories, Not just same themes and pages were edited but new pages created by Vijay and pages by संदेश on mrwiki.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 12:59, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

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thanks, I was suspecting the above users because of cross wiki similarities, not just on enwiki. As संदेश हिवाळे was blocked much before, there might be a less technical information, but they are active on other projects, I guess running CU over there might tell us more, Considering mrwiki and enwiki together there are too many similarities.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 14:29, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * . There is very little technical data for the alleged master, whereas there is a great deal of data for the suspected sock. They both edit from the same location and they both use the same broad category of devices, but within that category different ones. I don't think the behavioral evidence is strong enough to tag the user as a sock of the alleged master. Separately, Vijay bramhane is ✅ to and are blocked without tags.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:03, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd like to have a copy of CU data on enwiki for comparison while doing CU on other wikis, can you upload the CU data on CUwiki or send it to me? Thanks. &mdash; regards, Revi 05:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Ping is probably in order, I forgot that. &mdash; regards, Revi 15:22, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , I e-mailed you the data.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Any updates here? &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 03:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * See SRCU. &mdash; regards, Revi 03:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * All the accounts mentioned are blocked, nothing new turned up on SRCU. Closing.. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 03:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * (original master)
 * (original master)


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Possible block evasion, Same creations, similar edits, even use of same links to push POV, everything is same. [|Old users which are similar] and this is a new [|new user]  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 08:08, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * , it's not a same links but same bloglike websites used as references, like Velivada.com and similar.

See for Diana Peppa Special:Diff/909459429, Special:Diff/909458699, Special:Diff/909458366, Special:Diff/909031220 and For Sandesh Tupsundare Special:Diff/908896848, Special:Diff/907561325  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 18:04, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , Meanwhile, Please look at [|Such] similarities, where they all have done, same pages, same links, same contents. Some of them are really stale but there is some connection between all of these as. They all have been inserting similar links, similar contents on the same pages. Ambedkar and Dalit articles are their favorite. thanks  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 09:39, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , I will come back with more diffs and evidence in a day or so. thanks  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 10:16, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Edit summary usage which is been a consistent problem with the master and later incarnations Sandesh Vijay Tupsundre Low or no edit summaries. So many of them got warnings around usage of it.
 * Similar usernames, Sandesh/संदेश being common in three accounts, As same as obsession with Ambedkar and Dalit themes.
 * Userbox Ambedkarite editing and usage history shows interesting journey,
 * this userbox was created by Sandesh Tupsundre
 * Then corrected by Mahendramisal
 * Used on the userpage by Sandesh Tupsundre
 * It was constant try by User:संदेश हिवाळे to get that userbox on their userpage and they have been trying to convince other editors to do that, as they have been blocked indef.
 * It is not a coincident that, this userbox was only used by either Sandesh Hiwale or his only one friend.
 * All the enwiki new pages created by Sandesh Tupsundre are translations/english versions of pages created on mrwiki by User:संदेश हिवाळे including categories. Some of them are linked to wikidata so one can easily check it.
 * Its already shown that Sandesh Tupsundre heavily used velivada and roundtableindia and similar self-published sites as a references. Same links were used by User:संदेश हिवाळे and they still use those links on other projects.
 * Similar and aggressive page moves with Tupsundre, Vijay, Sandesh, संदेश not to say that their page moves were wrong but, same intention of giving official names, all of them have done aggressive page moves out of which some are problematic too.
 * All the accounts can be seen as making edits from their mobile devices, and small-small edits in a series, the way they make modifications in the content is also similar.
 * This is what I could gather in numbers, there is much on the cross wiki level but, on enwiki I just want to stop myself here. I know this is too much to ask or I am adding later on. But this case is connected with the older one  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 17:17, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * , Sorry for missing the starting point, here it's the user creation log which clearly tells us that, Sandesh Tupsundre was created by संदेश हिवाळे. Who is already blocked on enwiki for invading topic ban, sockpuppetery and much more.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 03:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * In which diffs are they using the same link? Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 17:55, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * - to compare and to look for other accounts Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 18:23, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ and in different continents. Meat is possible.
 * - for up to a week pending a response by the users in question. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 05:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I am unable at this time to find a connection between Sandesh Tupsundre and Diana Peppa based on the evidence presented. I haven't been looking for connections with, , , and because it wasn't originally raised in the request, but I'm going to need to see a better set of diffs before I can make a block. I understand that in a lot of cases it probably seems pretty clear that a particular group of users is the same to someone who's been interacting heavily or involved in disputes or the same article, but it's much harder for an SPI clerk to see the trend simply by sampling contributions, and the presented diffs aren't enough. Let me know if you're planning on submitting additional diffs or analysis; on the current record, if there's nothing else, all I can do is close the case without action. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 21:15, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Sandesh Tupsundre . Thanks. Going to look at the rest of this tomorrow. Best, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 03:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've decided to close without action, but I'll be keeping an eye on Diana Peppa. Will merge this case with Sockpuppet investigations/संदेश हिवाळे. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 05:02, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Account created months after was blocked.

These accounts are just Ambedkar-SPAs, dedicated to promoting this subject. Vijay brahmhane and Mahi914101 make same edits, particularly promoting anything "named" after these subjects, and the extreme obsession with List of things named after B. R. Ambedkar which is only edited by socks of this sockfarm would also tell enough. Aman Kumar Goel(Talk) 12:49, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Should also compare with user, blocked by as the sock belonging to this SPI.


 * Editor interaction.


 * Adding about some ambedkar-related TV show on List of television shows based on Indian history.
 * Expanding same section on B.R. Ambedkar.
 * Extreme obsession with List of things named after B. R. Ambedkar.
 * Often makes multiple edits and use same edit summary on the same article:-
 * "added content" on Savita (Mahi914101)
 * "added to categories" on Bouyei people (Sandesh Tupsundre)

Another obscure similarity is that these accounts have edited Marathi Wikipedia, and Hindi Wikipedia. Aman Kumar Goel(Talk) 05:58, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I hope you will check the new evidence.
 * I was not referring to "B.R. Ambedkar", but "List of things named after B. R. Ambedkar". The top editors of this page are 1) Mahi914101, 2) Sandesh Tupsundre, 3) Vijay bramhane, 4) Mahendramisal. All 4 have been blocked except Mahi914101 who has made 302 edits on this article of his 451 total edits on wikipedia.
 * Pattern of edit summaries are no different of Mahi914101 than other socks of this SPI. Mahendramisal always used edit summaries as well.
 * Mahi914101 and Mahendramisal have used same edit summaries on List of things named after B. R. Ambedkar:
 * "edited"
 * "edited name"
 * "added new name"
 * And more:
 * "added new one"
 * "Remove unwanted"
 * "remove unnecessary part"
 * Vijay_bramhane added about "Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Samajik Nyay Bhavan" on List of things named after B. R. Ambedkar. Mahi914101 did the same thing as well.
 * I don't see how Mahi914101 is not related to this sockfarm. Aman Kumar Goel(Talk) 18:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Vijay_bramhane and Mahi914101 both asked History of Buddhism in India to be changed to Buddhism in India by starting a new section every time. Apart from the evidence I have already provided above, I think these two diffs should leave no doubt now per WP:DUCK. Aman Kumar Goel(Talk) 20:11, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * I want to all of you to look at this log and the account creation log, I can't see it as I don't have permission to see more than this entry but, this information might help us. And when I checked Mahi914101's contributions on mrwiki and hiwiki, those definitely behaviorally match with संदेश हिवाळे's contributions, and it could be another sock of theirs. As they have been doing it periodically on several projects. As requested in the earlier case, cross wiki check or investigation might be helpful. thanks  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 18:51, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * These edits look very similar:, . Mahi914101's enthusiasm for List of things named after B. R. Ambedkar, a honey pot for related socks , appears indeed suspicious.
 * User:QueerEcofeminist, Mahi914101 created Ek Mahanayak: Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, B. R. Ambedkar bibliography, Nanasaheb Shendkar on en wp, I wonder if these articles exist on mr wp and if they were created by known socks?  JimRenge (talk) 19:50, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Yes, Bibliography on mrwiki was created by alleged sock-master संदेश_हिवाळे and So Nanasaheb Shendkar. Except Ek Mahanayak which is still not there on mrwiki. But I am sure संदेश_हिवाळे will create it soon. संदेश_हिवाळे happens to be single purpose account and they are doing it violently by abusing other users, reverting them and by all other means. So possibilities of this new account being their sock is high.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 06:23, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * - everything we might be able to check is stale. Please evaluate based on behaviour. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:59, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * - the evidence doesn't stack up for me...
 * "extreme obsession with ... B. R. Ambedkar" - B. R. Ambedkar has 2233 editors, 549 watchers, and over 600,000 views in the last two months according to xtools. It seems to be a topic of widespread obsession.
 * The original report focussed on the comparison between Vijay brahmhane and Mahi914101. One consistently failed to leave edit summaries, the other does so religiously. They don't look the same.
 * The follow-up report compares Mahi914101 to Sandesh Tupsundre on the points that
 * they use the same edit summaries, not as each other but as themselves. Isn't that the way the edit page works? You're offered your previous edit summaries to choose from rather than typing a fresh one?
 * they make loads of edits - so would I if I were on a mobile connection, save early, save often.
 * "Another obscure similarity is that these accounts have edited Marathi Wikipedia, and Hindi Wikipedia." So two editors from India are able to contribute in two three of India's 4 most widely spoken languages (and all 3 in the world's top 10).
 * Sorry, I'm unconvinced. I'll leave the case open on the chance someone more acquainted with the case sees something I don't, but on the evidence presented, I favour closing. Cabayi (talk) 09:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing anything obvious that says sock to me. The two pairs of supposedly "same edits", i.e  and  don't looks the same to me.  Closing with no action. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:59, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Some new evidence was added just as I was closing this. I'm reopening.  -- RoySmith (talk) 19:14, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Just as in previous reports, the technical results are unclear. Mahi914101 is using many of the exact same IP ranges as have been used before, but device-wise it's not pretty. There is also a small possibility that Mahi914101 is related to . At the end of the day, this still has to depend on behavior. Personally, I think the behavioral evidence is stronger than and  do, but I probably haven't dug as deeply as they have.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * - has checked the Hindi & Marathi evidence - Special:Permalink/932800596. Please indef the sock. Cabayi (talk) 09:17, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:28, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Same pages, same edits, everything same, they got active after 4hours of blocking of earlier sock. All their enwiki page creations are masters hiwiki and mrwiki creations. Infact their commons uploads are feeding into categories created by master. agrees with me Special:Permalink/933670628.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 15:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' At this moment, I was able to find this much, Which new user in their first 7 edits puts their uploads in proper categories? that too after creating new category themselves.
 * They have only 7 edits on wikicommons, out of that two edits are for description, three are uploads and one is c:Category:Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Statue in Parli (Vaijnath)category creation which is subcategory of their masters cat "c:Category:Statues of B. R. Ambedkar in Maharashtra"
 * new pages created by them
 * Dr. Ambedkar International Centre : was created by master on mrwiki 2018-02-20 and enwiki by this account  2019-12-08 with the same content being translated in english with same marathi references even same youtube link as references which is so typical of the master, despite of being told several times they include youtube links as references. (Wikidata linked)
 * Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar (2019 TV series) : was created by master on mrwiki Tue, 19 Feb 2019, 09:58:12 (GMT) and on enwiki by this account  2019-11-14, which was further expanded by their earlier sock [|user:Mahi914101] this same page was created on hiwiki by user:Mahi914101 on 2019-11-16. (Wikidata linked)


 * new categories created by them
 * w:en:Category:Ambedkarite organizations was created on mrwiki by the master.
 * w:en:Category:Books about B. R. Ambedkar was created on mrwiki by the master.
 * w:en:Category:Works_about_B._R._Ambedkar was created as an mainspace article by the master on mrwiki

Other than this, this use of hotcat on such a large scale that too without is not something a new user with 54 edits can do!!!  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 16:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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. The master has been renamed to Sandesh9822. Please move and retag.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:22, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Sro23 (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * - Probably worth a look to confirm. The SandDoctor  Talk 10:04, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:05, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * could you give some specific diffs that demonstrate "Same pages, same edits, everything same"? I tried to verify, "All their enwiki page creations are masters hiwiki and mrwiki creations", but the pages on hi and mr have non-English titles, so I can't even match them up. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional information. I've blocked and tagged Prashant1308, and I'm working my way through their contributions to see which ones WP:G5 apply to.  We appreciate the report, but if you file future reports, please be more explicit about evidence.  Links to exact diffs really make our work easier.  In fact, you mention, they got active after 4hours of blocking of earlier sock; I can't even tell which sock you're talking about.  You've gone to the effort to figure this stuff out, share with us what you've found!  -- RoySmith (talk) 17:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , Sure I will keep that in mind from next time onwards. thanks  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 06:13, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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New accounts, making similar changes to same article of B.R. Ambedkar to this sockfarm. See this and compare with this new account. Suryakant Sadu came up with more praises but seems fishy enough. Aman Kumar Goel(Talk) 09:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * , both to Mahi914101 and to each other. ST47 (talk) 19:18, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Now socks with only IP addresses. Compare this edit with this edit. Shashank5988 (talk) 15:20, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * It's whack-a-mole, but I semi-protected Finance_Commission for a month. The IP is a mobile, so blocking it is pointless. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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As pointed about an IP belonging to this person above, same deep interest in falsifying results of a poll in favor of Ambedkar. Shashank5988 (talk) 16:48, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * What I found really suspicious between this account and this sockfarm is that both are adding pictures on "Legacy" section on Ambedkar's article Shashank5988 (talk) 13:41, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , This case should be worked on meta as, there is no enough data to check with the master or other socks which were confirmed with the master. But I am sure there is enough behavioral data to say, that User:भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर is related to User:Sandesh9822. for example, There interests remains Ambedkar and Dalit related pages. Commons uploads of [|User:भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर] are exact identical to the Sandesh9822's earlier uploads even the categories which were added in their first 6 edits on the commons are created by alleged sock. I can go on finding similarities like this. But thats all is crosswiki. So I am not sure how helpful it is going to be here.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 16:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * I am amazed to see the discussion about me here. I have nothing to do with the blocked user. Is it wrong to add a chart to the article "The Greatest Indian"? And this chart is for ten people, not for Ambedkar alone. There may be few similarities between the edits in an article, but that should not link me to User:Sandesh9822. I have edited many types of articles, nothing special has been written about B. R. Ambedkar. So don't misunderstand. Thank you. -- भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर (talk) 13:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * I'm not seeing anything that makes me think socking. If you have specific diffs which show that भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर is related to Sandesh9822, please provide them.  -- RoySmith (talk) 18:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Requested evidence not happening. Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Sukeshani:

Without a doubt..

भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर:

He is also a new user who shares the same interest in the same obscure articles as this user. Both interested in moving Ambedkar University Delhi. Similarly, both have also provided updates in the same way on Talk:B. R. Ambedkar regarding their addition to the article.. Srijanx22 (talk) 05:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Much like Sockpuppet investigations/Sandesh9822/Archive, this case require behavioral investigation. Given the last ran was check months ago, I think one would need to go through logs for checking if any of these accounts are related. is certainly more familiar with the behavior of this case and may want to help out. Srijanx22 (talk)  06:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am opening global cu, as there is no technical data about the master. And even behavioural evidence is scattered on various projects. So we can take everything on meta and take it ahead. Thanks Queer Eco feminist [they/them/their] 09:02, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * m:Special:Diff/20746694 I have requested it at global request. thanks Queer Eco feminist [they/them/their] 14:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * They couldn't perform CU on this case as these accounts are not active on any project altogether. we will have to work on behavioral evidence I have already given on meta m:Special:Diff/20747104/20753356, I can provide the same on this page too. Queer Eco feminist [they/them/their] 02:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Long-term abuse. Cross-wiki abuse. There has been long history of socking by this Sandesh9822, recently new account w:en:User:Sukeshani which was reported at w:en:Special:Diff/972392358/992051969 grabbed my attention again and I looked for more evidence.


 * On Commons uploads by c:Special:ListFiles/भारतभूषण_प्रकाश_नरंदेकर show similar obsession in statues of ambedkar photos uploaded by c:User:Sandesh9822.
 * Their first photo was uploaded c:Special:Permalink/330794787 and the very next day Sandesh9822 created a c:Special:Permalink/330879773 category for that photo and then other photos were categorised in the same category.
 * All of their uploads related to Ambedkar on commons have edits by User:Sandesh9822. c:File:Dr._Babasaheb_Ambedkar's_statue_at_Bindu_Chowk,_Kolhapur.jpg&action=history Sandesh catogorised this file the very next day. c:File:Bust_of_Dr._Babasaheb_Ambedkar_at_Bindu_Chowk_in_Kolhapur.jpg&action=history Sandesh categorised this file in only 35 minutes after it was uploaded.
 * Sandesh on mrwiki and भारतभूषण_प्रकाश_नरंदेकर on enwiki.
 * Vanchit Bahujan Aaghadi remains special interest for all of their accounts, Vijay Brahmane created it and it was further expanded by Sandesh Tupsundre, भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर. On mrwiki, simplewiki and hiwiki it was created and expanded by Sandesh9822 using same references and same content.
 * Sandesh on mrwiki and Sukeshani on enwiki.
 * विद्यार्थी_दिन_(महाराष्ट्र) was created by Sandesh and Sukeshani created it on enwiki w:en:Special:Diff/987500890/987504124 with same news sources, its rough translation of the same mrwiki article with minor changes. Even on hiwiki विद्यार्थी दिवस (महाराष्ट्र) it was created by Sandesh with same news sources w:hi:Special:Diff/3798241.
 * Statue of Dr. Ambedkar, Wolverhampton is not on mrwiki but, there are several other articles w:en:Category:Statues of B. R. Ambedkar the category itself was created by Vijay Brahmane another sock of Sandesh. So the same obsession persists with Sukeshani too.


 * Similar and aggressive page moves with Tupsundre, Vijay, Sandesh, संदेश not to say that their page moves were wrong but, same intention of giving official names, all of them have done aggressive page moves out of which some are problematic too.

Interaction analyser links
 * Between 2016-01-01 and 2020-12-04 on en.wikipedia.org User:Sandesh9822 (talk | contribs) and User:भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर (talk | contribs) both made edits to some pages in common. You can see a chronological list of all their edits on the Interaction Timeline or a table view on the Interaction Analyser.

Here the case was filed but as there is no technical data available for the alleged master on enwiki and all the behavioural evidence is cross wiki. thanks Queer Eco feminist [they/them/their] 02:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Between 2016-01-01 and 2020-12-04 on en.wikipedia.org User:भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर (talk | contribs) and User:Sukeshani (talk | contribs) both made edits to some pages in common. You can see a chronological list of all their edits on the Interaction Timeline or a table view on the Interaction Analyser.
 * Can we request some steward who can perform CU on mrwiki and enwiki(given the fact that they have access to CU even here!) both and then compare the data? is it possible technically and at policy level? Sorry if I am pushing or asking too much! I just want to know possibilities to solve such difficult cases. And given the personal attacks by Sandesh on me at meta, I should refrain from commenting here, now onwards but these were just last thoughts which I wanted to think loud. thanks Queer Eco feminist [they/them/their] 17:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The behavioral evidence above makes it clear that these accounts are being operated by same person as a part of their long term block evasion. The account creation date and repetition of same edits is convincing enough. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 07:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * The only users I can compare these possible sock accounts to are one another, and they're ❌.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:35, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I took a look and can't really tell if this is socking or just multiple people with similar interests. I suggest we just wait for the investigation on meta to run its course. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Which didn't happen. So I'm not sure where that leaves us. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If it helps Sukeshani and भारतभूषण प्रकाश नरंदेकर are bordering on  to each other and  to Sandesh9822. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:33, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Sigh. I just ran through all this again, and I'm not sure.  Looking at the evidence provided here, we have: "Without a doubt.".  At first glance, yeah, it's both users inserting the same text.  But, one of the edits is a semi-automated undo, so it's not actually like both users wrote that text; one just hit a button to bring it back.  So not much weight there.
 * Looking at their style of writing, they're all fluent in English, yet with subtle idiomatic inflections that tell me they're not from the US. Which describes many millions of educated people in India.  They all use mobile.  Which, again, describes pretty much everybody in India.  And the overlap in topics, I really can't tell if they're just popular topics, or if it's really significant that they're all drawn to those.
 * A lot of the evidence above is on other wikis. That doesn't carry much weight here.
 * So, based on behavior alone, I suspect socking, but that's all. Even with a "bordering on likely" CU finding, I just can't quite get all the way to blocking.  Also, neither of the suspected socks has edited in the past 3-5 weeks, so I'm not seeing any urgency in blocking to prevent ongoing disruption.  I'm going to close this with no action taken.  If they start to edit disruptively again, we can take another look. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:35, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * A lot of the evidence above is on other wikis. That doesn't carry much weight here.
 * So, based on behavior alone, I suspect socking, but that's all. Even with a "bordering on likely" CU finding, I just can't quite get all the way to blocking.  Also, neither of the suspected socks has edited in the past 3-5 weeks, so I'm not seeing any urgency in blocking to prevent ongoing disruption.  I'm going to close this with no action taken.  If they start to edit disruptively again, we can take another look. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:35, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So, based on behavior alone, I suspect socking, but that's all. Even with a "bordering on likely" CU finding, I just can't quite get all the way to blocking.  Also, neither of the suspected socks has edited in the past 3-5 weeks, so I'm not seeing any urgency in blocking to prevent ongoing disruption.  I'm going to close this with no action taken.  If they start to edit disruptively again, we can take another look. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:35, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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भारतभूषण_प्रकाश_नरंदेकर is Sandesh9822 but was given leeway by RoySmith during the last SPI. This is why I am filing this here.

Given भारतभूषण_प्रकाश_नरंदेकर has been warned, he won't be adding the controversial content to the article.

Instead, newly registered Thousand head Ravan is now gatekeeping this article and edit warring in same style.


 * Thousand head Ravan: "restoring content that was deleted by Aman Kumar Goel and did not remove his content because much of Ambedkar's criticism was directed at Hinduism while he made it completely against other religions and The references were not chosen at random. He also deleted the paragraph on Hindutva Fascism. Aman kumar goel introduces cherry-picked material at the same time. Please, Aman kumar Goel, do not support Hindutva's nazi ideology. Some admin look at this"
 * भारतभूषण_प्रकाश_नरंदेकर: This is not a puffery version so wiki community consensus is required to remove any text from it. Now, again user:Aman.kumar.goel had removed the edits of several users without giving a "proper" reason and without common "consent". Removing references/ sources, content/text, categories, external links, templates, statues info, wiki page links, spelling corrections, recently added works, other corrected info etc., are not all "puffery language or version". Constantly you have deleted a large text

This disruptive use of edit summary for discussion and attacking same user (which is Aman Kumar Goel) can't be common.

Other article edited by Thousand head Ravan, is also edited by socks familiar to this SPI. Shivkarandholiya12 (talk) 07:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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I have no idea why do it needs to be sandesh everytime when a vandalizer disrupts with Ambedkar or similar topics. Sandesh had a bad past where he has learnt from his mistakes. He has never disrupted his home wiki at Marathi. Feels bad that every sock is blamed to be him. Many of past SPI are negative or likely but not confirmed to Sandesh. No idea when this will stop -- ✝iѵ ɛɳ  २२४० †ลℓк †๏ мэ 13:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Only 1 SPI wasn't successful but the rest saw result. Most times the sock master was convicted of socking. Nothing else really matters. Srijanx22 (talk) 17:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thousand head Ravan do look like a bad hand sock. socking on this article is getting out of hand. I hope you endorse CU so that we can sort it out. Srijanx22 (talk)  17:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I'm not convinced these are the same person, they're adding different things to B. R. Ambedkar. There are some edit-warring and ownership problems, but that's not an SPI issue. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)