Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sayyid Mir Israfil/Archive

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 * ( originally filed under this user)

see the (now deleted) Talk:Raphael Hazrat Ishaan UtherSRG (talk) 20:59, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

TwelverShii created an article. Suspected sock created account and within minutes removed template for speedy deletion. Both using similarly worded edit summaries. Article has previously been deleted, was basically recreated. Equine-man (talk) 18:52, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:53, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Bubbledubble47 is ✅ to TwelverShii. Fluffykitty11 is .  Trulynaqshbandi (which is the oldest account) is ❌ -- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to AGF on this. 1 week for TwelverShii, indef for Bubbledubble47, and leave the other ones alone.  No tags. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * none of the accounts seem to be blocked. Spicy (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. Taking care of it now. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( originally filed under this user)

Talk:Raphael Hazrat Ishaan UtherSRG (talk) 21:33, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * - CheckUsers cannot connect IPs and accounts. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * IP hasn't edited recently, closing. Spicy (talk) 17:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Please merge both of the cases with Sockpuppet investigations/Sayyid Mir Israfil, WP:DUCK. DatGuyTalkContribs 10:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Merged. Closing. MarioGom (talk) 22:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Recreated Raphael Hazrat Ishaan, which is a favorite target of this sockmaster: Special:Log/Naqshbandi_Way, Special:Log/Zwölfermensch1. Spamming user talk pages with pleas to recreate the article:. Editing overlaps in Hazrat Ishaan. —*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 13:59, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Changed block to indef, tagged with alt master.  courtesy ping. DatGuyTalkContribs 10:18, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Although CU was inconclusive last time (meatpuppetry perhaps?), i think behavioural evidence is worth checking here: in line with previous sockpuppets,. Requesting CU for sleeper check. —*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 14:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * As far as I can see, this account is still technically ❌ to the blocked accounts - it's in a different country. Girth Summit  (blether)  15:45, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * With an edit count this low, and given the CU result, I just don't see anything convincing here. Feel free to report again in the future if there is new (and substantial) evidence. Closing for now. MarioGom (talk) 19:04, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Like the socks in the previous SPIs, this user is fixated on the WP:OR "Ishan/Ishaan" stuff. They created the WP:OR template "Ishaani Line of Succession" with an image  uploaded by one of Sayyid Mir Israfils socks TwelverShii. They are currently mass-spamming this template everywhere.

They also somewhat attempted to recreate the deleted Ishaan article by moving this article. That deleted article was notorious for being constantly edited by socks and meatpuppets (as seen in the deletion discussion for example).

Perhaps the data of the IPs mentioned in my old report might of use? . HistoryofIran (talk) 23:37, 24 June 2023 (UTC)


 * EDIT: Surely this is the smoking gun: TheAva1on just recreated this deleted article, which was deleted in 2020 and was previously created by Sayyid Mir Israfil, who strongly protested against its deletion, saying "We are totally right and will prevail." --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * I came here to ask the same thing, connecting these two accounts. Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Can we get some checkuser love here? It's been a few weeks now and the disruption has continued. Liz Read! Talk! 04:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem, GS, there are a limited number of checkusers and a seemingly endless supply of sockpuppets. Thank you for checking. Liz Read! Talk! 22:09, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * The old accounts are stale, but I did some digging around in the CU logs. This account geolocates to the same location, and uses the same ISP, as, a confirmed sock. Taking behaviour into account, I'm blocking and tagging as proven. Sorry for the delay - there's been a bit of a backlog over here in recent weeks. Closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  10:05, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
PerfectForm1 essentially created the same template as TheAva1on  but this time its named "Naqshbandism". It literally has the same image as well, though I'm not sure that's possible to see now that TheAva1ons template has been deleted. They also added the same image in the French Wikipedia

Compare their EIU as well, PerfectForm is basically adding the templates to the same articles that TheAva1on did. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * EDIT: This "new user" also just protested against the block of Dragon819010, who was blocked back in April for disruptive editing. Interesting. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

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How interesting to see that constructive editing is regarded as undesirable. --PerfectForm1 (talk) 20:28, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * PerfectForm1 is ✅ to TheAva1on.  Salvio giuliano 22:42, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The user did the almost the same contribution about the Dakik Family as the sockmaster. Furthermore the account did similar contributions to other WikiPages like Barakzai Dynasty,Sardar, Prince, Sayyid. This cannot be a coincidence. Janos Neman (talk) 11:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Vanjagenije
 * From suspected sockpuppets @TwelverShii and @MadRoyalist, I took the diffs
 * 1. twelvershii: revision 24.september.2022, 13:28 Barakzai Dynasty
 * > added information on Azizi Cade Branch, so about the Dakik family.
 * 2. Madroyalist: revision 12.january.2023, 18:58. Barakzai Dynasty
 * -> edited his own content for more detailed information on dakik family via introducing "Mir Muhammad Jan".
 * From Dudman4567:
 * 1. revision: 21.november.2023, 11:58, Barakzai Dynasty
 * after a user under an IP edited the family story into this wiki page again.
 * > he editet into the paragraph more detailed to dakik family by adding information on "Mir Muhammad Jan".
 * 2. revision: 21.november.2023, 12:06, Barakzai Dynasty
 * > added more information on dakik family and prof. abdul khalek khan and of "Mir Muhammad Jan" and his father.
 * We know that the sockpuppets are centered around adding information on dakik family for self promotion. And if I follow the edits from Dudman4567, he has such detailed alteration around this family, where I believe no one outside the sockpuppets and some Wiki Editors by IP-Adress (very suspicous) has done to wiki. And if you follow the also share the same interest in editing the same wikipages. Additionally he altered on nov.21.2023 the Barakzai Dynasty page more than 20 times. Similar happend with the account madroyalist from 7 to 11 january. Janos Neman (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  16:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Read carefully WP:DIFF and try again.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  19:09, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * due to non-response from filer and insufficient evidence. The Wordsmith Talk to me 01:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC)