Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sazmancrpo/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Samsunguser7007 gets blocked for disruptive editing on July 11. Delluser911 creates their account on July 25, with an extremely similar username and the same editing overlap (Pakistani MLAs). There's been some overlap, including in draftspace (Two drafts on the same non-notable subject: Draft:Riaz Ahmed Kataria Draft:Riaz Kataria, and direct overlap here).

Maaaxati009's account was created on July 14, just 2 days after the Samsunguser7007 was blocked. 2 of their 3 contributions overlap with an article and a draft that the suspected master had contributed to just a few days prior. Additionally, on the draftspace one, Delluser911 also edited that one a few days later.

Requesting CheckUser as Maaaxati009's connection is not 100% certain, but I think the similarity in username and topic area and date that Delluser911's account was created makes that case a bit more certain. Curbon7 (talk) 03:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * -  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Both of these accounts are to Samsunguser7007. Given the overlap in editing interests, I'm going to block and tag as suspected.   Girth Summit  (blether)  12:37, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Case merged from Sockpuppet investigations/Samsunguser7007/Archive. Spicy (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Created Ahsanullah Chaudhary, with same fake reference and photo as Draft:Ahsanullah Chaudhry, which was created by Samsunguser7007 and Delluser911. Ahsanullah Chaudhary was deleted in July as a blatant hoax. Storchy (talk) 08:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * So, I believe this SPI case is going to be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/Sazmancrpo, right? Liz Read! Talk! 20:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to each other:
 * to to the case. Similar geolocation. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems ducky enough considering that this appears to be more hoaxing. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Case merged from Sockpuppet investigations/Samsunguser7007/Archive. Spicy (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Case merged from Sockpuppet investigations/Samsunguser7007/Archive. Spicy (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Both users are here just to promote one subject and attempt to hijack other articles to be about him. See this attempted hijack by the master and this by the sock PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * Cleaning up after this sockpuppet, all of the various connected sockpuppets I've come across this morning leave edit summaries like "I have created a new article" every time they create an article, a draft, a redirect or do a page move. Very telling. They mainly seem focused on Pakistani politics and an IP I came across working on an article several worked on came from Sialkot. That might be a coincidence but a lot of their work concerns this city. Liz Read! Talk! 19:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * I suspect these are all related to Sockpuppet investigations/Samsunguser7007 as well, so self endorsing for a check to see if the cases need to be merged. PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Pinging @Girth Summit who dealt with the last batch. PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * - I would call Sialkot808 ✅ to Samsunguser7007. I've blocked them as such.  I don't have any data for Sazmancrpo, but my take from the diffs presented is that it is indeed likely that Sialkot808 amd Sazmancrpo are the same actor.  This should be merged to Samsunguser7007 and tagged as such.   I see you tagged the accounts in Samsunguser7007 as suspected.  My feeling is that with the corroborative data from Sialkot808, retagging them as confirmed seems reasonable, if that makes sense to you. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:29, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't it be merged here? Sazmancrpo is the oldest account and despite not having CU data, still seems likely behaviorally. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure. What I should have said was "merge with, in whichever direction makes the most sense". -- RoySmith (talk) 18:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked again at the CU data (a bit busy IRL), but no concerns from me to proceed with RoySmith's proposal. Girth Summit  (blether)  23:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Closing per below. Spicy (talk) 16:52, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
10 unrelated edits, then creates Choudhary Nazir Kataria to avoid salted titles. – NJD-DE (talk) 19:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * So, will this case be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/Samsunguser7007? Liz Read! Talk! 20:46, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 18:28, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Taking another look at everything, I'll call all of ✅ to each other. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:30, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * - Once the pending merge is completed, please retag everybody as confirmed to Sazmancrpo (there's some new data which I didn't previously have which now lets me complete the chain back to the master). -- RoySmith (talk) 18:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merged case, retagged socks, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 16:52, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Created Ahsan Ullah Chaudhary, with same fake reference and photo as Ahsanullah Chaudhary and Draft:Ahsanullah Chaudhry, created by Abbotabod123, Samsunguser7007 and Delluser911 respectively. Ahsanullah Chaudhary was deleted in July as a blatant hoax. Same dodgy edits to articles about the politics of Sialkot. Storchy (talk) 08:55, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * firefly ( t · c ) 10:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
New account promoting non-notable Riaz Kataria at Sialkot and List of people from Sialkot. See Draft:Riaz Ahmed Kataria, Draft:Riaz Ahmed Kataria (1), Draft:Riaz Kataria, Choudhary Nazir Kataria, etc. Storchy (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅: -- RoySmith (talk) 15:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
New account promoting non-notable Riaz Kataria at Sialkot and List of people from Sialkot. See Draft:Riaz Ahmed Kataria, Draft:Riaz Ahmed Kataria (1), Draft:Riaz Kataria, Choudhary Nazir Kataria, etc. Storchy (talk) 11:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * is quacking very loudly, indeffed. First time following admin guideline on open cases since I saw it on RfPP, please let me know if I did anything incorrectly. DatGuyTalkContribs 12:22, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @DatGuy You did good. SPI is badly backed up.  Do more of it.  Bring your friends. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:37, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll try and do a few DUCK blocks here and there but please do mention if I overstep as a patrolling administrator. DatGuyTalkContribs 19:07, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Draft:Riaz Ahmad Kataria. Storchy (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Indeed, also similar username to and making the same edit here .  - please indef Paklegacy as a suspected sock. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 22:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged per request. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 22:17, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Created Riaz Kataria on autoconfirmation, and the usual self-promo at List of people from Sialkot. Storchy (talk) 15:01, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 15:14, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Attempted a rewrite of Riaz Ahmed matching previous Riaz Kataria articles, then linked it to Sialkot. Storchy (talk) 06:10, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Then tried the same at Riyaz Ahmad. 

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 * Already --Jack Frost (talk) 04:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Dermacorrect11 has created Ahsan Ullah Chaudhary, which was previously created (under that name and also at the now-protected Ahsanullah Chaudhary) by this sock farm. Also vaguely similar username as some of the earlier ones. And although this account was registered only ten days ago, I don't think it's a new user, based on their editing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:33, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * PS: Also created Chaudhary Riaz Kataria, again in common with the earlier socks. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:47, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ditto, Ahsan Saleem Baryar. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:13, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * - also note Draft:Lalaland.pk (E-Commerce), a website owned by Sazman Ecom-Pvt-Limited (see sockmaster name). MarioGom (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ to, to the archive.  --Blablubbs (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - SialkotOfficialspoll is also related behaviorally . Please, block both accounts. Thank you. MarioGom (talk) 15:35, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * , closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
User:Herbalpolitics, autocreated 13 September. SPA, strong overlap with previous accounts. Immediately added Riaz Kataria to List of people from Sialkot. Recreated Draft:Garmor Corporation at Draft:Garmor Corporation (Gloves Manufacturer). Five days later, recreated Riaz Kataria at Riaz Ahmed Kataria. Wikishovel (talk) 12:53, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Recreated Ahsanullah Chaudhary at Chaudhary Ahsan Ullah, and moved Garmor Corporation draft to Garmor Corporation. Wikishovel (talk) 15:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:51, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Usual MO, account User:KingPinPK created today and immediately recreated Riaz Ahmed Kataria at Draft:Riaz Ahmed (Politician), with newer photo by User:SialkotOfficialspoll. Wikishovel (talk) 17:45, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * - Signed up the next day after the last block to re-create this article previously created with various titles by other socks. Please, indef the account. Requesting a sleeper check. MarioGom (talk) 22:17, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Added one. Blocked, tagged. Courcelles (talk) 22:39, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
User:PTISialkot created 5 hours ago. Usual MO, mostly adding pictures uploaded by User:SialkotOfficialspoll back to articles about politicians from Sialkot, and linking them from List of people from Sialkot. Recreated Draft:Umar Dar at Draft:Umar Dar (Politician).

User:DrNationSialkot is one we missed earlier. Four minutes after account creation, posts the usual cheerful bollocks to their user page, then six minutes after that, a whinge at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Riaz Ahmed Kataria before that was G5'd, Wikishovel (talk) 18:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Adding a CU request, since we missed DrNationSialkot on the last go. Wikishovel (talk) 18:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * . MarioGom (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Both ✅ RoySmith (talk) 20:51, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
User:Dictator2023 created 20 Sept. Same topic focus as the rest of the socks, using photos uploaded by User:SialkotOfficialspoll, and usual MO of creating legit articles on local politicians before getting to the real task. This morning, recreated Choudhary Nazir Kataria at Draft:Muhammad Nazir Ahmed. Wikishovel (talk) 09:31, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to . Blocked and tagged, closing. Girth Summit  (blether)  10:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
User:DissNoveler created 2 Oct, gamed autoconfirm, then 8 Oct created Chaudhry Riaz Kataria with fake references posted to Publuu. Wikishovel (talk) 07:51, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Adding, sole edit so far was to submit Draft:Chaudhry Riaz Kataria at AFC. Wikishovel (talk) 15:48, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * - also see signup date for DissNoveler (2023-10-02) and last activity by this sockfarm (2023-10-01, SialkotOfficialspoll on Commons). MarioGom (talk) 14:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * } is ✅ to ; is likely enough as makes no odds, blocking both as confirmed. Don't see any others.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
autocreated on ENwiki 11 Oct. Gamed autoconfirm, and recreated Ahsanullah Chaudhary at Ahsan Ullah Chaudhry (now at Draft:Ahsan Ullah Choudhary (politician), via Draft:Ahsan Ullah Choudhary, via Ahsan Ullah Choudhary via Draft:Ahsan Ullah Chaudhry), with one fake reference uploaded to Publuu that mentions him, and two fake references that don't. Prior to that, they created simple:Garmor Corporation, and a Wikidata entry for it. Wikishovel (talk) 13:24, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

And now copied to Muhammad Ahsan Ullah Chaudhary by ChugLug. Wikishovel (talk) 10:09, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Chaudhary Riaz Ahmed Kataria today, then immediately moved to Draft:Chaudhary Riaz Ahmed Kataria. Wikishovel (talk) 08:47, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Nazir Ahmed Kataria today, then immediately moved to Draft:Nazir Ahmed Kataria, Sazman Group, Riaz Kataria, blah blah. Wikishovel (talk) 21:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Riaz Kataria today, then moved to Draft:Riaz Kataria following speedy nomination. Wikishovel (talk) 09:06, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, Riaz Ahmed (businessman), a recreation of G4'd Riaz Ahmed Kataria. Wikishovel (talk) 12:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Adding IP sock 39.40.174.243, removed speedy tags from Riaz Ahmed (businessman).

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I mistakenly fixed the mistakes in two of the articles created by the accused user, i'm having no connection with them. i was just editing pages listed in New pages Feed and edited those also. Thanks -- Syed A. Hussain Quadri (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked ChugLug since it looks pretty WP:DUCK to me. Galobtter (talk) 15:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Chuglug is ✅ to, and also to . . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Same moves of Draft:Muhammad Hassaan and Draft:Muhammad Shahzad Mohmand to mainspace. This appears to be an enormous flock of ducks. The volume suggests CU, please. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * One could go down a real rabbit hole with this. I've already discovered  and  which on behavioural evidence alone are clearly the same person, given that the username is in the article. Uncle G (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Lh1011 is a CU request on the same user, by the way. Uncle G (talk) 14:28, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * . MarioGom (talk) 13:28, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * This account is Lh1011, and appears ❌ to this case. I will post further results in the other case. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:59, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
, SPA with usual hoax articles under new variant spellings: Ahsan Chaudhary, Chaudhary Riaz Ahmed. Recreated Qaiser Iqbal Baryar at Qaiser Baryar. Wikishovel (talk) 12:46, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Central PK has also recreated Garmor Corporation. Wikishovel (talk) 09:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

, sleeper created 15 October. Today recreated Ahsan Ullah Chaudhary at Draft:Ehsan Ullah Chaudhary. Wikishovel (talk) 08:23, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Today CataDoj has recreated Riaz Kataria at Riyaz Kataria. Wikishovel (talk) 16:11, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Both ✅, . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:24, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Came across this probable sock doing NPP tagging. Several things made me suspicious of this account being a probable sock: First, this account was created only a couple of days after the latest sock of User:Sazmancrpo was blocked. Second, the account started immediately creating the same exact field of articles (possibly-ish notable Pakistani businessmen and politicians.) Next, the account recreated Khawaja Muhammad Masood Akhtar, deleted a month and a half ago as a WP:G5, or in other words, an article created by another sockpuppet of User:Sazmancrpo. I suspect there is a plausible chance of a second or more sleeper socks, based of the previous cases, as well. Eternal Shadow  Talk  02:56, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * More possible evidence pointing to sockpuppetry: ChugLug, another sockpuppet of Sazmancrpo also edited the ‘notable people’ section of Sialkot. Eternal Shadow   Talk  03:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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Been keeping an eye on, for the reasons Eternal Shadow notes above. Account also recreated Ahsan Saleem Baryar, last created by blocked sock User:Pakdirector, with Sazmancrpo's usual MO of creating legit articles on political figures, then switching to their real goal of hoax articles glorifying Sialkot non-notables under variant spellings. This one hasn't got around to that second phase just yet, though Khawaja Muhammad Masood Akhtar should actually be titled Khawaja Masood Akhtar per sources cited, and half of the sources don't actually mention him. Wikishovel (talk) 07:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Khawaja Muhammad Masood Akhtar now moved by sock back to Draft:Khawaja Muhammad Masood Akhtar. Wikishovel (talk) 14:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


 * There is evidence of cross wiki abuse. See Global contributions of SiakotOfficialspoll a prior confirmed sock of this master; various uploads led me to Commons. I believe it may be time to request Global Locks for the master and all proven socks. Please will the SPI team consider whether the threshold has been reached, and, if so, to making this request? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to ; . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you're right, their socks are also active on wikidata and commons, and several are blocked on those wikis. Stewards are the ones that make decisions on global locks, I've left a request on their noticeboard but they're quite backlogged. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:22, 28 November 2023 (UTC)