Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SchnitzelMannGreek/Archive

Report date March 25 2009, 21:52 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins

User:Neurolysis informed me that he had reported a User:Inferno,Lord of Penguins 2 to WP:UAA. I found that fishy, so I decided to make sure there were no more socks spoofing me. There were: according to Special:ListUsers, there was also a User:Inferno Lord of Penguins 2.2 and a User:Inferno,Lord of Penguins 3. Trying to see if I could find behavioral similarities that might lead to a main account, I noticed that 2 and 2.2 both harassed User:The Polish Leader. Odd thing was, after 2 was done, User:SchnitzelMannGreekIIII was created and came to The Polish Leader's defense within minutes of creation. That's when I figured this out - I have dealt with a SchnitzelMannGreek before. See this. The IP made threats and demanded that User:SchnitzelMannGreek be unblocked. Using Special:ListUsers again, it would seem that SchnitzelMannGreek has a history of socking. That explained it - Schnitzel held a grudge, and because of that created User:The Polish Leader so that he could spoof me and vandalize that user's talk page, then used SchnitzelMannGreekIIII to attack the spoof accounts. Judging by this message, and the warning on User_talk:24.127.233.72, it would seem that he used that IP. User:70.153.243.39 was the IP that demanded that the original be unblocked, and User:68.17.227.27 engaged in vandalism on User:The Polish Leader similarly to the spoof accounts.

Inferno,  Lord of   Penguins  21:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Also another note - 70.153.243.39 and 68.17.227.27 are in Atlanta, GA. 24.127.233.72 is in Jacksonville, FL. Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  21:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is also very interesting - this was created by User:The Polish Leader. Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  15:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Checkuser will likely be needed to confirm this, and to identify sleeper accounts. Inferno,  Lord of   Penguins  22:08, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.
 * Comments by other users

Additional information needed: Please provide a code letter. SPCUClerkbot (talk) 22:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions
 * ✅ beyond a doubt for all above accounts, except for Inferno,Lord of Penguins 2 and The Polish Leader, who nevertheless seem to be involved judging from behavior and technical evidence. – Luna Santin  (talk) 06:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * All done and blocked.

Report date April 10 2009, 17:39 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Have placed similar sockpuppet tags on User pages, all referring to User:Inferno, Lord of Penguins CardinalDan (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by CardinalDan (talk)
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 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

This user is obviously SchnitzelMannGreek out to get me blocked. This user has held a grudge against me for a while. Personally, I think a CU is needed, this user also impersonated me recently. See Sockpuppet investigations/SchnitzelMannGreek and the CheckUser results. If it's needed, I don't mind if you perform a CheckUser on me, but as I have said, I'm trying to make a clean start under a new username, so please do not reveal that username. (Unless administrative action is required, which it won't be.) Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 18:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users

Requested by Tiptoety  talk
 * Request for CheckUser
 * - Self endorsed, while I think this clearly passes the duck test, I feel there is more to this story and I suspect there are more accounts. Also, it is rather suspicions that he says he is User:Inferno, Lord of Penguins. Before I block User:Inferno, Lord of Penguins I would like to know for sure he is in fact a sockpuppet, and this is not a user out to get him blocked (a impersonator). Tiptoety  talk 17:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * I am working on this one, other clerks please do not close yet. Tiptoety  talk 17:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * has been indef blocked for overall disruption. Tiptoety  talk 17:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ that ==.
 * Very that  is the same user.
 * (I know you didn't ask, but I want to make it clear. Inferno hasn't broken any rule). -- lucasbfr  talk 18:02, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * Blocked, and case moved from Sockpuppet investigations/DeutschBlitzkrieg to Sockpuppet investigations/SchnitzelMannGreek. Tiptoety  talk 18:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Report date April 12 2009, 00:42 (UTC)
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 * Evidence submitted by Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk)

This diff and this userpage say it all. (Note the references to schnitzel, greece and penguins). I have to admit, I'm pretty amused this time. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For those not familiar with SchnitzelMannGreek, see the past SPI cases for this user. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 01:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also this diff, and compare it to this. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 02:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and this... Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 03:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Note: All blocked indef except for the IP. CheckUser is still needed; for the purpose of confirming the IP, and to ID any sleepers. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 03:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The IP is in Atlanta, GA, the same as all past SchnitzelMannGreek IPs. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 03:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I blocked the IP for one week. Tiptoety  talk 21:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

The editors and  should also be examined. There is weird stuff going on -- Greek Army reported Anti-Greek for vandalism. Could have been fooling around, or sock-vs-sock, I don't know, that's why I haven't added them to the list above. Looie496 (talk) 02:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users
 * Added them, they both look like SchnitzelMannGreek to me. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 02:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Requested by Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests
 * To root out sleepers. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 01:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Endorsed - checkuser needed. Note for checkuser who reviews this case - I have had a brief look. A number of other accounts that bear a recheck are also added above. FT2 (Talk 04:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Still needed, user managed to create another sock. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 15:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Make sure you check User:The Logical Mind. While there is a decent chance they are SchnitzelMannGreek, there is a small chance they are not, and I don't want any innocent users caught up in this. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 19:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * All of the accounts (other than the IP) are already indef blocked. Could you provide more evidences (such as what pages those socks edited) to show that there are more potential socks out there? OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I've placed a few rangeblocks (AO, ACB) to keep this vandal down for a few days. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 21:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC) -- Kanonkas : Talk  21:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * ✅ the following:

Report date April 15 2009, 02:23 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

(Note: all of the above have been indef blocked, except for the IP, which has yet to recieve a block) SchnitzelMannGreek has been up to it again: creating the accounts mentioned above. The usernames speak for themselves, except for User:TurkishMexKangaroo-of Elevish-in Texas and User:BalkenTyropita madman, but their contributions are more than quackish. The IP was affected by an autoblock, and the reaction clearly is SchnitzelMannGreek. (See User talk:74.234.21.138). The IP is also in Atlanta, GA, which has as of yet been true for all SMG IPs. I am requesting checkuser because this is evidence that the rangeblocks that were the result of the last SPI have not been effective, and new blocks may need to be issued. Alongside that, I don't want to risk leaving any sleepers. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 02:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 02:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests
 * - To check for sleepers / perform a IP or range block. Tiptoety  talk 02:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

IPs blocked. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 19:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * ✅ the following:
 *  Syn  ergy 19:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Report date April 16 2009, 00:38 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Admits to being SchnitzelMannGreek, a sockpuppeteer. Link I'd like to confirm the connection.  Ceran  llama chat post 00:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by  Ceran  llama chat post


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

This is obviously SchnitzelMannGreek, though he seems a little more reasonable this time than previously. I'd like to have a chat with him real quick before any admin puts the banhammer down this time. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 01:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users
 * I've sent replies out. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 01:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Range re-blocked for 55 hours. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 02:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * ✅ the following:


 * All blocked and tagged. Waiting to close until we hear back from User:Inferno, Lord of Penguins. Tiptoety  talk 02:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you can go ahead and close this. I was communicating with him on his Axis 666 account, but it got it's talk page disabled (an inconvinience) in the middle of the conversation. I've left him instructions at User talk:Axis 666, and he's going to have to communicate via email. Hopefully we'll be able to get him to reform. If another case for this user is opened, leave a message on my talk page so I know. Thanks! Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 03:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure he got my message, however (he might've left once talk page was disabled). If you see any more SMG socks, inform them of my message at User talk:Axis 666, and tell them to stop socking at once. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 03:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)