Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SchoolcraftT/Archive

Report date March 28 2010, 06:18 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

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 * Evidence submitted by  Chzz  ►

Please block, so we can discuss correct procedure for possible 'clean start' - ie reading policy, then a clear unblock statement, etc.  Chzz  ►  06:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Nwebster already blocked by Killiondude. However, I should note to those reviewing SchoolcraftT's block to take this sock puppetry case into account when reviewing, as this is relevant to his unblock/unban request. –MuZemike 07:44, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Conclusions

Evidence submitted by Hole in my sock
Deleted sockpuppet notice on User:72.251.24.26. Hole in my sock jibber jabber 16:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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 * Ths ip dosent even belong to me. Enough said.

Comments by other users
Yup, that's dumb enough to be Tod Schoolcraft. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Well, the WHOIS for the two IPs show they are pretty far apart (one in Colorado, one in Pennsylvania). Furthermore, one hasn't edited in months. If the other continues to disrupt, you can report them to AIV. TN X Man 13:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Bitmapped
Same IP range and same article (Mountain Parkway Byway) as SchoolcraftT and his previous socks. Bitmapped (talk) 19:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users
Yep, that's definitely the same IP I came across...deleted sockpuppet tag on another IP sock of his. Special Cases Spit out your comments 08:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * It was just the one edit and it's been quiet since then. This may have been SchoolcraftT, but I don't think there's enough here to take larger steps. Relist or take to AIV if it continues. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 12:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elen of the Roads
Only edits Mountain Parkway Byway. Obsessively reinserts broken links, particularly to which was the official site but was shut down some time ago. This was a source that Todd Schoolcraft used. Changes Webster County to Northern Webster County - something Todd always did. Edit wars to get the info into the article. Makes the same kind of errors in his english as Todd Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree. DaleSr3 has also uploaded a file to Commons  with same lack of proper permissions as SchoolcraftT.  File is also lacking any embedded data on its creation, just like SchoolcraftT's uploads did. Bitmapped (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
✅ –MuZemike 21:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Tagged and blocked. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

15 February 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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second IP (.217) only edited once, back in May, but it was to add File:Mountain Parkway - Hacker Valley Kiosk.JPG which Todd had uploaded to Commons, and which was eventually deleted because of course Todd never provided any evidence that it was a free file

.178 has today been making the most bizarre series of edits to Todd's favourite article Mountain Parkway Byway, taking the references out, then putting them back, then taking them out, then putting them back....

Todd used to edit from a dialup account - he's obviously got himself broadband.Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC) Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Note, adding this here to maintain the record. I have checkusered on Wikipedia and he has not used this IP to create an account. However, he is blocked and has socked at Commons and is blocked at wikisource  for uploading his copyvio images there and attempting to get them transferred to Commons, so it's possible he's active elsewhere. Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

06 December 2015

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Exclusive focus on editing same Holly River State Park and Mountain Parkway Byway articles. Same obsession with naming of Mountain Parkway Byway as shown in. Bitmapped (talk) 04:29, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Wv26228 appears to have admitted being User:SchoolcraftT in his edit comment at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mountain_Parkway_Byway&diff=694040780&oldid=694009033. Bitmapped (talk) 19:40, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Judging by spelling issues, lack of signature, and the page user edited at, appears to be User:SchoolcraftT. Bitmapped (talk) 19:50, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Commons user WV262 uploaded photos to Wikimedia Commons that Wv26228 then added to Mountain Parkway Byway and identified as being their own photos . Edits same text as Wv26228 within minutes of each other . Bitmapped (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Edits same text as WV262 and Wv26228 within minutes of each other, apparently as one account was logged out and before other was logged in . Bitmapped (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Examples
Please see some examples below. I can go through the diff logs to locate more. These are ones primarily just from the Mountain Parkway Byway talk page and sockpuppet investigation responses. Bitmapped (talk) 06:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm curious as to why the user's choice of articles in editing is considered irrelevant as shown by the edit comment on . WP:IDENTICAL seems to indicate this is a valid reason for suspecting sockpuppetry. Bitmapped (talk) 14:25, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Because, we can click on the "contributions" link above and see his contributions. We don't need a separate list of his contributions, as that just makes the page longer.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  13:33, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. I just wanted to make sure that the edit histories would be taken into account and they obviously were. Bitmapped (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

SchoolcraftT: Moving article while ignoring Talk page discussion:

Wv26228: Moving article while ignoring Talk page discussion:

SchoolcraftT: Deleting article Talk page comments from others:

Wv26228: Deleting article Talk page comments from others:

SchoolcraftT: Repeated edits to Talk page comments

Wv26228: Repeated edits to Talk page comments

SchoolcraftT: Unsigned comments

Wv26228: Unsigned comments

50.121.214.108: Unsigned comments

SchoolcraftT: Page moves with capitalization errors

Wv26228: Page moves with capitalization errors

SchoolcraftT: Typos and spelling errors

Wv26228: Typos and spelling errors

50.121.214.108: Typos and spelling errors

SchoolcraftT: Obsession with archiving article Talk page

Wv26228: Obsession with archiving article Talk page

SchoolcraftJT: Threatening or trying to block users who reported him

Wv26228: Threatening or trying to block users who reported him

SchoolcraftT: claiming reasons for blocks or page protection are exaggerated

Wv26228: claiming reasons for blocks or page protection are exaggerated

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitmapped (talk • contribs) 14:57, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * All evidence in this report has been fabracated to make you believe that. Reporter has also fabricated the story that led to to article MOuntain Parkway Byway to be move protected. All edits were constructive contrary to what was reported. Atricles in question were updated, but not sole focus. Wv26228 (talk) 19:24, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Spelling issues don't make a sock. Wv26228 (talk) 17:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC):::
 * The evidence that caused the move protection was in fact fabricated and I have the diffs to prove it.
 * 13:51, 6 December 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Mountain Parkway Byway ‎ (Wv26228 moved page Mountain Parkway Byway and bACKWAY to Mountain Parkway Byway over redirect: revert)
 * 13:51, 6 December 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+52)‎ . . N Mountain Parkway Byway and bACKWAY ‎ (Wv26228 moved page Mountain Parkway Byway and bACKWAY to Mountain Parkway Byway over redirect: revert) (current)
 * 13:50, 6 December 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Talk:Mountain Parkway Byway ‎ (Wv26228 moved page Talk:Mountain Parkway Byway to Talk:Mountain Parkway Byway and bACKWAY)
 * 13:50, 6 December 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Mountain Parkway Byway ‎ (Wv26228 moved page Mountain Parkway Byway to Mountain Parkway Byway and bACKWAY) Wv26228 (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The pages were moved. Wv26228 was the one who moved them per diffs and . It's unclear to me what you are claiming was "fabricated" about this. Bitmapped (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Bitmapped You failed to consider the second move, the one to put it back to its current name. Wv26228 (talk) 10:45, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * the measge on the talk page was for a posiblity of a new consensus, and the move was in error, hince the one minute gap betwwen the pairs of difs. Wv26228 (talk) 12:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ... and the link you gave was also a fabrication. unless im not seing it.Wv26228 (talk) 12:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ... and the message you left was after the 2nd move had already occurred. Wv26228 (talk) 13:05, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Acuseror failed to take the one minute gap between the moves into account. Wv26228 (talk) 13:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this..  Vanjagenije   (talk)  00:10, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Please note that did, in fact, supply diffs on 8 Dec. 2015.  This material may have been overlooked because Bitmapped neglected to sign / timestamp it.  I've added an "unsigned" template with the missing signature info.  —  Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 06:07, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm indeffing Wv26228 and WV262 based on provided evidence, similar usernames and identical edits.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  13:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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This IP user displays a similar editing history to indefinitely banned user User:SchoolcraftT with a focus on the Mountain Parkway Byway article. User is reopening same arguments about the name of the article as SchoolcraftT and another one of his previous socks User:Wv26228 - see for the end of a chain of edits. The user has a similar pattern of repeatedly tweaking changes to his comments (going backwards from ) and failing to sign comments. User added photo from Wikimedia Commons attributed to another one of SchoolcraftT's socks, User:WV262. Bitmapped (talk) 19:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * This Ip has done nothing out of the ordinary, normal editing only. This was a blatent attack on this IP with no supporting evidence. This has gone too far and this needs to be closed accordingly 184.15.55.25 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * See below. GABgab 15:40, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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Appears to be another dynamic IP as 184.155.55.25 which I recently reported for SchoolcraftT. Same focus on Mountain Parkway Byway and unexplained rollbacks of own changes as SchoolcraftT's other socks. Like SchoolcraftT, says route is CR 20/13 (edit comment at ) even though that is unsupported by evidence. Bitmapped (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * See below. GABgab 15:40, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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Continued exclusive focus on Mountain Parkway Byway. Making same arguments regarding content as previously used by SchoolcraftT. Bitmapped (talk) 19:37, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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 * These IPs are all too old. Closing. GABgab 15:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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User has a similar focus on Holly River State Park, with a similar history of sloppy edits and reversions of their own changes. User has problems with copyright violations (see taken from http://www.hollyriver.com/equestrian.html), just as SchoolcraftT did. Their username is very similar to User:DaleSr3, a confirmed and blocked sockpuppet. (The usernames presumably refer to race car drivers Dale Earnhardt, Sr. and Dale, Jr. and their car numbers.) Bitmapped (talk) 22:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * , there is no non-stale account to check against. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Uh, never mind, blocked this account as a sock 10 days ago but the case was not updated. My scripts are not behaving today. User tagged, case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:07, 12 August 2017 (UTC)