Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Seksen iki yüz kırk beş/Archive

01 June 2011

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IP is active during the time when Seksen iki yuz kirk bes was blocked for edit-warring. Edits the same contentious articles that Seksen iki yuz kirk bes was editing right before he got blocked, namely, Turkish invasion of Cyprus and Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922). The IP shows knowledge of wikipedia policies and is clearly not a new user. I suspect it was used by Seksen iki yuz kirk bes to edit while he was blocked. Athenean (talk) 19:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * - Not a connection for a CU to draw. -- DQ  (t)   (e)  19:41, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Per behavioral evidence (e.g. these two edits) I've blocked the IP for a week. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 03:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

02 June 2011

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Seksen iki yüz kırk beş was blocked (for one week) but the conversation continued at and edits/rv(s) continued at. This I reported to BWilkins who has just blocked the IP address at for a week also (a couple of hours after having blocked the userid. However, the user violated a one week block by using an IP address as a sockpuppet. Is any further action necessary or are the above actions adequate?   Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 14:26, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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I'm sorry, but checkuser will generally not disclose connections between IPs and named accounts. TN X Man 14:58, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I misread your request, I apologize. TN X Man  14:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Block reset. Next time it will be indef. T. Canens (talk) 15:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

As I have pointed out in this link [], these two IP adresses are mine 78.176.91.37, 85.103.166.64 and I am not the user Seksen iki yüz kırk beş. Indeed, he said he is writing from the city Mersin in here [] and all the three IP's that I am using is from Istanbul, two cities which are miles away from each other.

03 June 2011

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This IP address actually claims that they are not Seksen iki yüz kırk beş in their edits and appears to be more WP:DUCK. Probably from another PC and it probably isn't worth running checkuser. Nipson anomhmata  (Talk) 09:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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Yes, it definitely is from another PC, one from Mersin as Seksen iki yüz kırk beş has told, the other three IP's are from İstanbul, which are all mine. I have made my case in the talk page of the IP 78.176.91.37 User_talk:78.176.91.37. By the way, I did not know that somebody having the user name Seksen iki yüz kırk beş exists in the world until a few days ago when I was reading the Cyprus article. So he is not me and is not even somebody I know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.103.129.110 (talk) 10:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is that you are behaving exactly like Seksen. See WP:DUCK. If you are genuinely an unconnected person then you should wait a few weeks before editing in the wake of his edit-warring behaviour. If you are an unconnected person then you are behaving like a WP:MEATPUPPET which is just as bad if not worse than a WP:SOCKPUPPET. If you are genuinely unconnected you need to know that you are making things worse for Seksen. If the socketpuppetry and meatpuppetry continues then Seksen and all associated IP addresses will be banned indefinitely. You are not doing him a favor. You are condemning him.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 12:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I am not trying to make anybody favor or disfavor, I merely and repetitively say that I am not the said editor, nor have any affiliation with that person. In fact, I simply followed editor Nipsonanomhmata's edits, which led me to the specifis articles where he and the user Seksen iki yüz kırk beş both are edit-warring. As I reverted what I consider to be Nipsonanomhmata 's disruptive unilateral deletions of sourced information I have been accused of sockpuppetry, for insance here and here, merely because Seksen iki yüz kırk beş was just doing the same. --85.103.129.110 (talk) 12:42, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * That's WP:STALKING.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 13:35, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

No it is not. WP:STALKING article says that stalking consitutes following an editor "in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work". I am editing just for a few days in total and mostly to revert the disruptive deletions of the editor Nipsonanomhmata, which can hardly be called a "work" in the first place. I am reverting what he deletes from wikipedia, not what he adds to it. Plus, I do not follow that user as a person, there are definitely better things to do in life than to follow an extremist nationalist. In this respect, WP:STALKING also says that: "Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.103.129.110 (talk) 14:46, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * And that's WP:PERSONAL ATTACK.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 14:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I have never thought calling an extremist nationalist as an extremist nationalist constitutes a "personal attack". I am not going to do that from now on. Would that be offesive too if I call him an "Angel of Peace"? Alright, I would not be using any personal adjectives at all.--85.103.129.110 (talk) 15:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Per WP:DUCK I've blocked the IP for two weeks, and have blocked the master for 1 month for evasion. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 15:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm relisting this for a checkuser. This case is now being discussed at ANI as well, on the grounds that all of these IPs I've blocked recently may not be connected to the master. I know that we don't usually connect IPs to accounts, but I'm listing to try to get to the bottom of this issue. If the issue is not reporting the results publicly, then maybe they can be emailed or something. Either way, I think we need a checkuser to clarify the situation. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So.. it's been four days, and the ANI thread has been archived... —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 12:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * File this one under WP:DUCK, HelloAnnoying. No point in matching IPs to prove a point when they can be blocked.  Keegan (talk) 07:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * IP is blocked, so nothing further to do here. SpitfireTally-ho! 07:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Sigh, what a suprise, a bunch of new administrators making judgements on this false sock puppetry accusation issue without bothering to read anything about what has been written on the Administrators' Notice Board or several other places. Sorry Seksen, as the owner of all the dynamic IP adresses I unwillingly caused the extension of your block. But at this point there is nothing I can do about it and with people like these you probably wont be missing wikipedia during your 1 month block period.