Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sha-Sanio/Archive

Report date February 7 2009, 19:47 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)


 * I have been having trouble with Sha on the Smallville pages, because they have been continually uploading countless images and trying to replace them around the Smallville articles without first discussing it on the talk page. The most recent issue is on Clark Kent (Smallville). Sha ignores consensus and uploads their images anyway. Just today, a new user has come to the page, Green-Olli, whose edits mirror Sha's almost identically. Not only did they oddly pop up on the Clark talk page to support Sha's image choice, but I have noticed that the first thing they did when they created their account was create a sandbox for one of the Smallville episodes (which they use to test their future edits to the Smallville articles). The sandbox was the biggest clue to me that Green was really Sha, as (if you look at Sha's contribs), Sha has created a sandbox in the same fashion for every single page that they have edited (from Smallville to Revolutationary Road). It seemed almost obvious that they were the same person.
 * They also both seem to have the same preference for words, as seen by Green's response below (where he refers to me as "boring") and Sha's consistent use of the term "boring" (,, ...this is just 3 times that I quickly grabbed from the Clark article. It's a staple of his speech).
 * I've recently added an IP address that has shown up on the Smallville articles just a few hours ago. It appears to be following the same pattern as "Green-Olli" did (who, btw, has not edited since that day they joined), which is that they show up to support Sha-Sanio and then response to Sha about 2 or 3 minutes after Sha leaves a response on the page.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I also have suspicions that Sha might actually be, who was indefinitely blocked from Wikipedia. I don't have real evidence to support this one (though, I think that a check user -- and this probably isn't the right venue for that -- might be necessary to determine if Boggy is indeed avoiding his indefinite block), just that as soon as Sha started editing the Smallville articles they also immediately started contacting and  (neither editor monitors the Smallville articles, but both editors, along with myself, had lots of contact with Boggy when he was editing). What caught my interest in this was the way he spoke to Erik (see one of his edits here), which was eerily similar to how he has commented on talk pages to/about us in the past. All of this is circumstantial, and the primary evidence is only between Green-Olli and Sha-Sanio.    BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:47, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why this boring guy is attacking me. I have nothing to do with him or Sha-Sanio. Definitely not.Green-Olli (talk) 20:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

I feel confused, why do you always want to win, bignole? We want another image. And we don't have anything to do with each other and you are all alone and we are two different persons of the same opinion and you intendedly block us. I don't want to go on, I have work to do.Sha-Sanio (talk) 20:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I have been watching this whole image argument from the start, and although Sha-Sanio began this whole thing with good intentions, the whole argument has gone way too far. It is quite obvious, IMO, that these two users are indeed the same person. Green-Olli began editing on February 7, and one of his first edits was to comment about the picture. Further, they both have a dash in their name, have similar speech, and as you can see above, replied to the accusation within four minutes of each other. This is probably the amount of time it would take someone to write a comment, log out, log in their other account, and comment again. Thanks,  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   00:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users

Sha recently came to my talk page and asked for my opinion in the Smallville debate. When I failed to respond (being offline at the time), an anon showed up and proceeded to bombard my page with eight messages, containing insults and questions as to why I was not replying. This anon, User:74.3.2.107, has also shown up on the Smallville pages with the same agenda and editing style as Sha. Seems like there's a pretty good chance they're one and the same, and their edits are increasingly disruptive.  Paul    730  12:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * See conclusions

These are fairly obviously socks based on the timing and behavior patterns. The IP is without a doubt related.
 * Conclusions
 * User:Sha-Sanio is blocked for 1 week, with a warning not to sock in the future.
 * User:Green-Olli is blocked indef as a sockpuppet of Sha-Sanio
 * User:74.3.2.107 is blocked for 3 months, softblock, account creation disabled. The IP is static, so it will likely only affect one person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixeagle (talk • contribs)