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03 July 2013

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Both and  are single-purpose accounts editing our article on, a politically conservative think-tank. Both have a similar POV on the subject and have edit-warred in tandem to remove critical material from the article (e.g. Jurtal, LysanderMises).

Here's the strange thing. LysanderMises created his userpage with the words "Jurtal is a Wikipedia editor". Jurtal then promptly blanked that edit, and LysanderMises logged in to change it to "LysanderMises is a Wikipedia editor". For reference, Jurtal's userpage reads "Jurtal is a Wikipedia editor".

I believe that these are either one editor or two closely affiliated editors. I think that the above diffs show him/them accidentally logging in from the wrong account to edit a userpage, or simply forgetting which account was logged in. The accounts are clearly being used in tandem to edit-war in an inappropriate fashion.

I shared my concern with User:NuclearWarfare, a checkuser, who reported that there was evidence of IP overlap between the two accounts. He requested that I open a formal request here to get additional checkuser attention and a second look from other checkusers. MastCell Talk 20:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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LysanderMises and I are two separate people. We know each other and work in the same office. Hence, the IP overlap issue. I told her she should customize her user page. Stupidly, she copied what I had on my user page to her page. When I saw that mistake I deleted it using my own account. Jurtal (talk) 20:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Jurtal, have you ever edited at home (or somewhere else which is not work)? The same question goes for you, LysanderMises. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I often make edits from home. Jurtal (talk) 23:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I compute from many places. See also my Talk page for response to query.LysanderMises (talk) 00:11, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I am absolutely not socking. More than one person at one office whose activity I have no control over will necessarily be recorded as sharing a common IP address. Is there someone I can talk to in person to resolve this? Jurtal (talk) 06:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - If what they say above is true, then CU should confirm it. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:16, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Although they have indeed edited from the same work IP, there is some reason to suggest that LysanderMises and Jurtal are indeed separate people. But Jurtal does appear to be socking, and the following accounts are ✅ from it:
 * WilliamH (talk) 05:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * WilliamH (talk) 05:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * WilliamH (talk) 05:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I am requesting clarification from WilliamH; please do not handle the case in the meantime. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:10, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Shadowthedog (actual master) blocked for 1 week. Jurtal and IndependentRob blocked indefinitely as socks of him. LysanderMises believed to be a different person. Note for Shadowthedog/Jurtal/IndependentRob, if you really are three people, unfortunately we must treat you as one person since you all edit with the exact same technical characteristics and on the same topic; see WP:MEAT. If you're innocent, maybe contacting ArbCom with proof of identity could be an option. Closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 13:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that I have moved the SPI from Jurtal to Shadowthedog. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 13:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)