Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shagadelicbasil23/Archive

30 May 2015

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Username similarity- both have 23 in their username. Also, Shagadelicbasil23 never used edit summaries, and all their edits have Tags: Mobile edit, Mobile web edit. So far, Sportseditor123 has made 2 edits and, which are mobile edits without edit summaries, and is on a page Shagadelicbasil23 had made about half the edits on (see Revision history). All of these are signs to be that it could well be the same editor, and therefore sockpuppetry/block evasion, since Shagadelicbasil23 was indef blocked 3-4 days ago for not co-operating with other users, and disruptive edits. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:12, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, the edits are following the Shagadelicbasil23 style of making lots of small edits in a short timeframe, see the revision history above. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:13, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

and You know how Shagadelicbasil23, do you think this could be the same person? Joseph2302 (talk) 01:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * Comments from PeeJay - This almost certainly has to be the same person, but I'd appreciate it if an admin could run a Checkuser to make sure. The editing pattern is too similar to be a coincidence. – PeeJay 08:56, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd also agree it's the same user, based on the time between the block and the very specific edits made to the article in question.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Now we just need someone to endorse the Checkuser. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:39, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * This edit is the clincher for me - adding the mobile web URL, as Shagadelicbasil23 seemed only to edit via mobile devices.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:05, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅ to Shagadelicbasil23:
 * Mike V • Talk 12:14, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Mike V • Talk 12:14, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Mike V • Talk 12:14, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Mike V • Talk 12:14, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

08 June 2015

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This IP address is following the unique Shagadelicbasil23 style of editing, making lots of small edits consecutively, and every edit being tagged as "Mobile edit, Mobile web edit", like every edit of Shagadelicbasil23. Their topic areas are also the same as Shagadelicbasil23's- AFL and current cricket series/tournament. It looks like a duck to me. asked me about it on my talkpage, and I agreed with them that the behaviour seems identical to Shagadelicbasil23. Looking at [|their contributions], do you think it's Shagadelicbasil23 again? Joseph2302 (talk) 12:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe 100% that it's him.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:54, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * Definitely the same person, all the telltale signs are there. – PeeJay 15:33, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Lugnuts also posted this at WP:ANI, where Flickerd has agreed it's the same person based on their AFL edits (thread is WP:ANI). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree that there's a strong resemblance between this IP's editing style and that of User:Shagadelicbasil23. Ultimately the latter was blocked for (apparently) making a large volume of edits (in which there would be occasional mistakes) without ever discussing. He is one of those people who never uses the preview button, so he would take 12 edits to do what someone else would do in one edit. I didn't notice either Shag or the IP getting into an easily-described edit war. From time to time, the FOOTY regulars would have complaints about Shag that they would leave on his talk page, and there was never any response whatsoever. I'd favor a one-month block of the IP. If that leads to a discussion, then an unblock might be considered if he agrees to communicate. EdJohnston (talk) 14:29, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I Support what Ed said.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I support EdJohnston too, although we're actually CRICKET regulars not FOOTY regulars, for the purposes of being technically correct. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:49, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, FWIW for the last 2 days I've just being reverting their edits on cricket pages as block evasion, because WP:DUCK. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Diffs: Null edits:, for IP, , ,  for Shagadelicbasil23. Note making null edits was one of the main reasons the ANI case against Shagadelicbasil23 was started. Lots of consecutive, mainly minor edits all marked as "Mobile edit, Mobile web edit" (which I've never seen any other cricket user's edits marked as): IP:, , , , , ,,. Shaga:, ,. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:19, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've only interacted with User:Shagadelicbasil23 on the 2015 AFL season page; their process of editing was to be very quick when something was announced, which mainly included crowds and results, they made small consecutive edits with no edit summaries, and they were always tagged with "Mobile edit, Mobile web edit".
 * Crowds
 * 1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): they would input the crowd as soon as it was announced and was always before the conclusion of the match (note: not all crowds were announced during the match, so this type of edit was not consistent for all matches, it was generally prime-time matches) see, , , , and so on.
 * 2. The IP address (sockpuppet): they popped up on 8 June when there was only one match for the day, they also input the crowd during the match, see


 * Results
 * 1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): they would also input the result of the match within seconds of the match finishing (I've added the tweets for the games as a reference of time), see (edit made at 21:51 AEST) [accompanying tweet at 21:50 AEST], (edit made at 15:48 AEST) [accompanying tweet at 15:49 AEST].
 * 2. The IP address (sockpuppet): On 8 June they added the result of the match incredbily fast see (edit made at 17:56 AEST)[accompanying tweet at 17:56 AEST].


 * During the period between SB23 being blocked (26 May) and when this IP address popped up (8 June), no new editors popped up and the only editors who inputted results and crowds were myself and another large contributor of the page, Thejoebloggsblog. We were both slower than SB23 when inputting this information, usually 10-60 min after the conclusion of the match. No other editor during the season was as fast as SB23 when inputting this information, therefore, this IP had to be a duck due to the quickness of their edits.


 * Small consecutive edits, no edit summary
 * 1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): They would always do small, consecutive edits which could be done in 1-3 edits and there was never an edit summary. See, , , , , , , , 9 May– 9 edits in the space of 20 mins, no edit summaries, , , , , ,  24 May– 6 edits in the space of 14 mins, no edit summaries.
 * 2. The IP address (sockpuppet): On 8 June, the IP address continued this type of editing, see, , , , , , , , , 8 June– 10 edits in the space of 11 mins, no edit summaries.


 * "Mobile edit, Mobile web edit" tag
 * I understand the issue with this as millions of edits have these tags, but no other editors on the 2015 AFL season page were that consistent in having those tags.
 * 1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): Every single edit by them was tagged with this, see contributions.
 * 2. The IP address (sockpuppet): Every single edit is also tagged like this, see contributions.


 * It is very clear to me that this IP address is Shagadelicbasil23. Thanks, Flickerd (talk) 05:53, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

They also just updated a scorecard at a rain break here, which only Shaga would do. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:37, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I see a lot of talk here, but not much evidence. In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  23:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * "Mobile edit" and "Mobile web edit" are just Tags that are automatically added by the software when editing using the mobile phone. There are millions of edits marked with those tags. Making WP:NULLEDITs to different articles is also not very convincing evidence. I'll have to close this if there is no stronger evidence.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:49, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There probably are some better diffs, I'll look for them when I have more time. But the fact that every editor who has interacted in a big way with Shagadelicbasil23 has immediately come to this conclusion shows it's actually them. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:54, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you Flickerd for providing that info. Hopefully that's the convincing evidence that's needed.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:49, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * - please can you provide an update? Thanks.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 11:41, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd say that the evidence presented above is enough to block the IP for one week.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:08, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've issued the one-week block as requested by User:Vanjagenije. EdJohnston (talk) 15:28, 13 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  15:30, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * See you back here in seven days then.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:12, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 7 days for obvious block evasion- far too lenient. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

14 June 2015

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This IP address also appears to be a sock puppet of user:Shagadelicbasil23 considering 101.160.12.43 was blocked last night.

Evidence

Match margin

1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): they would input the margin of the match within seconds of the match finishing (I've added the tweets for the games as a reference of time), see (edit made at 21:52 AEST) [accompanying tweet at 21:50 AEST], (edit made at 15:50 AEST) [accompanying tweet at 15:49 AEST].

101.160.12.43 (sockpuppet): 8 June (edit made at 17:55 AEST)[accompanying tweet at 17:56 AEST].

2. 137.147.175.72 (sock puppet): Popped up on 14 May, see (edit made at 19:17 AEST) [accompanying tweet at 19:17 AEST)

Small consecutive edits, no edit summary

1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): See, , , , , , , , 9 May– 9 edits in the space of 20 mins, no edit summaries, , , , , ,  24 May– 6 edits in the space of 14 mins, no edit summaries.

101.160.12.43 (sockpuppet): see, , , , , , , , , 8 June– 10 edits in the space of 11 mins, no edit summaries.

2. 137.147.175.72 (sock puppet): Popped up on 14 May and continued this style of editing, see, , , , , 14 June– 6 edits in the space of 5 mins, no edit summaries. More,, , , , , 7 edits in the space of 9 mins, no edit summaries.

"Mobile edit, Mobile web edit" tag

Once again, every edit is tagged like this

1. Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster): Every single edit by them was tagged with this, see contributions.

101.160.12.43 (sockpuppet): Every single edit is also tagged like this, see contributions.

2. 137.147.175.72 (sock puppet): See contributions

Editing similar pages

1.Shagadelicbasil23 (sockmaster) and 101.160.12.43 (sockpuppet): They would always edit the 2015 AFL season page in large numbers and the current cricket tour (most recently Pakistani cricket team in Sri Lanka in 2015, Indian cricket team in Bangladesh in 2015, New Zealand cricket team in England in 2015, Australian cricket team in the West Indies in 2015.

2. 137.147.175.72 (sock puppet): At the point of this report, this IP address was solely editing the same sort of pages, 2015 AFL season and Indian cricket team in Bangladesh in 2015.

Tagging, , and because you are aware of their type of editing and tagging  because you dealt with the last case and for a speedy result, because it's starting to get ridiculous what this person will do to evade a block. Thanks, Flickerd (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)


 * IP address from the same place. IP pops up straight after previous IP address was blocked. IP edits exactly the same articles with the same pattern as the blocked user/IP. WP:DUCK and then some. I've seen less-obvious socks blocked for alot longer in a much quicker turnaround.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:DUCK to me too, IP address pops up doing the same things from the same location as an IP that just got blocked. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Please, block this IP for one week.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  11:16, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've issued the one-week block as requested. EdJohnston (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing the case. Two articles that were edited by both IPs are also semi-protected now, after my request.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:19, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

22 June 2015

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User:Shagadelicbasil23 (SB23) was blocked sometime ago. They have tried to evade their block by editing mainly under IP addresses, but occasionally as a "new" user. I raised this at WP:ANI yesterday about them using an IP address to edit, and the IP was quickly blocked. The report also lists other IP addresses and another confirmed sock account (Sportseditor123). A few hours after the latest IP editor was blocked, Sweden2018 started to contribute. A brand new user, with no previous editing knowledge first created this unref'd (and possibly unveriable article, with links to Australia and Melbourne (SB23 is from Melbourne). Less than 40 minutes later, Sweden2018 started to edit International cricket in 2015–16, an area that SB23 was involved in editing (by that, I mean cricket, not that specific article). A minute later, this article was created by the new user. Again, Australian-centric cricket, which SB23 was prolific in editing prior to the block. None of these edits have been sourced. An attempt to engage the user on their talkpage to ask for sources has been met with silence. This was the fundamental issue with SB23 - complete failure to engage with any other editors on any of his edits. I would expect a "new" user to at least reply on their talkpage or make some form of attempt to communicate, esp. if they have the knowledge to create new articles from the word go. Thank you.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 07:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Note that the first article has now been deleted as a "blatant hoax", with the creation of such articles being punished by blocking.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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The uncollaborative nature, combined with the many small edits, and the fact they aren't answering anything on their talkpage suggests it's Shaga again. I've never seen Shaga add a reference to anything they've done, so 2016 Castrol Edge Cup fits their style. Also created unreferenced West Indian cricket team in Australia in 2015–16, which fits with them never referencing anything, and frequenting the current/upcoming cricket tours pages. And the small, consecutive edits things again, see, , ,. Seems like a duck to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:23, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Blocked, seems a clear WP:DUCK to me. Not sure if a CU will want to take a look to see if there are any other accounts he's using, otherwise this should be archived. Jenks24 (talk) 13:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 14:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)