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07 June 2013

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Shaushka is blocked indefinately and has their initial unblock request denied. Their only interest has been Yazdânism and kurdish related topics. The IP shows up and starts editing in the same manner on the same set of topics. GB fan 13:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

11 June 2013
User:Til Eulenspiegel has accused me of being sock. Of course, admins can freely check. --HistorNE (talk) 22:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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 * I'm not Shaushka and it can be proved by technical tools. You're assuming bad faith and removing my edits without any logical reasons. --46.239.60.21 (talk) 14:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: Per WP:DUCK, I'd say this is indefblocked user Shaushka using a sock. The IP seems to change every day; other socks making all the same edit wars on all the same articles include User:46.239.14.76 yesterday, and User:46.239.43.249 the day before. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 18:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Update: The above IP was just blocked for 5RR edit warring, but is back again already causing more disruption as User:46.239.43.249. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:33, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Update2: User:109.165.175.186 is the latest IP sock on the IP range. I see you already reverted him and identified the sock, but he is continuing the identical disruption as he was not blocked. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 20:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Additional IP socks: User:109.165.234.143, User:109.165.232.245, User:109.165.198.30 Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 21:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Update 11 Jun: Very regrettably, User:King of Hearts advised the block evader to make a new account, then denied all accountability for doing so. So now instead of an IP we have a new sock account User:HistorNE carrying on the very same edit wars and contentiousness. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * We have edit-war only because you're reverting my edits on basis of false sock-accusations. My IP was blocked for 48 hours and I haven't got involved in any edit war, and now when 48 hours are passed, when admin proved I'm not sock and adviced me of making account, you're making same accusations and removing my relevant edits. --HistorNE (talk) 19:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Where has any admin proved you are not a sock or said you are not one? Please stop lying; there is no doubt you are User:Shaushka.   By the way, you certainly found this page fast enough, didn't you? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Read below. As I stated at first, I'm not his sock. I don't even share hiw views because I see he claimed Yazidis aren't Kurdish (nonsense). Please stop with aggressive accusations and assuming bad faith. --HistorNE (talk) 19:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I see nothing below "proving" you are not a sock nor saying you are not one. Your own comments prove nothing as you are caught fabricating and lying even about what anyone can read in the section below.  I have no good faith, because right after Shaushka was blocked, your IPs kept coming back and continuing the identical edit wars.  Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Inserting advices with WP:RS to admins are "edit war"? You simply removed it by false sock-claims, actually only because YOUJUSTDONTLIKEIT. --HistorNE (talk) 19:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't care what you inserted, or if it was 100% correct. You are violating your indefblock, and sooner or later it catches up to you and you are blocked as soon as an admin sees what is going on.  Until then, all your edits will be reverted on sight.  If any of them were correct, they can be added by an obviously legitimate user later. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 20:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not violating indefblock because I'm not Shaushka and my IP got blocked for 48 hours (passed). I could report you based on violating 3RR on Talk:Lullubi, but since it isn't so much relevant I won't. --HistorNE (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Except for HistorNE's first edit (creating a userpage), he immediately jumped to reverting Til Eulenspiegel, stalking Til Eulenspiegel's request for page protection, and following him to this page without having been notified about the investigation. If HistorNE isn't a sockpuppet, he should be blocked for stalking. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:48, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Why? Can't you understand that I can not make normal edit simply because of his reverting and accussing? --HistorNE (talk) 21:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You were totally free to start off on other parts of the site, but your account starts off doing nothing but following Til around and opposing him, even in areas a new account wouldn't have known about (e.g. this page). That's either sockpuppetry or stalking. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * What really nails it for me is: Take a look at what Shaushka was doing when it got blocked for edit warring -- and then look at the contribs in the very first of the series of dynamic IPs to show up: Special:Contributions/109.165.188.100. As each page eventually gets protected, the user moves on to new edit wars on different pages, but always picks up the same edit wars on pages that weren't protected, with a new account after getting blocked, so we can tell who they are. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 21:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you prove Special:Contributions/109.165.188.100 is Shaushka? Shaushka hasn't used any relevant sources, just forced his POV. I wasn't engaged in any edit war, you started all of them and that's why I reported you. When I leave some advice on talk page with WP:RS for further editing you simply remove it because you think that I'm "sock". --HistorNE (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I am not Kurdish and I'm quite sure I have never been within 1000 miles of Istanbul in my entire life either. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 22:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * here is one of your IP socks screaming at me in an edit summary that I must be Kurdish for reverting you
 * here is one of your IP socks screaming at me in an edit summary that I must be Kurdish for reverting you
 * here is User Shaushka screaming at someone elsewho reverted him in an edit summary on May 29, that they must want to be Kurdish

Funny "logical" inductions. Chicken has two legs, Shaushka has two legs, so chicken is Shaushka. That user insulted religious groups by calling them "gypsies" (such person deserve to get banned), and I haven't show anything anti-Yazidi. Mentioning that Yazdanism is fringe theory isn't any kind of insult but academic fact. --HistorNE (talk) 23:14, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Shaushka, it's nowhere near as funny as your "logical" deductions. Anyone who reverts me must be Kurdish. TE reverted me, so TE is Kurdish. Note to admins: It was another user, GB fan, who first identified the initial IP as the blocked Shaushka, I just happened to find his argument convincing as soon as I looked over Shaushka's editing history. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 23:27, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Kurdish POV-pushing doesn't imply user is Kurdish. I can start German POV-pushing at WW2 article but it doesn't make me German. --HistorNE (talk) 23:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
I've blocked User:46.239.43.249 for 48 hours (matching the block on the other IP). 109. hasn't edited in a couple of days, so I've left them alone. I haven't looked at the merits of whether there's sufficient evidence to conclude that these IPs are Shaushka, but their edits are sufficiently disruptive (and the IPs are clearly the same person) to warrant blocks. We may need semi-protection on some of the pages that are being attacked.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've been blocking the IPs as they edit and semi-protecting pages. I'm not very good at range blocks, but if that's doable, it would be a helluva lot more efficient.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I analyzed the edits from the entire range and would like to opine that a rangeblock is probably inappropriate at this time. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 10:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Since it's a little confused above, I want to clarify that there is a request to see if User:HistoryNE and User:Shaushka are the same. I believe that Tir Eugenspiegel has provided enough diffs to make a CU acceptable (though that's up to the clerks to decide); personally, I'm doubting they're the same, but I trust TE that his suspicions are well-founded and thus deserve investigation. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Marking for close as activity appears to have subsided. WilliamH (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)