Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Slovenski Volk/Archive

10 June 2011

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Slovenski Volk is under a 0RR WP:ARBMAC restriction on Ancient Macedonians, which he has violated several times in recent days, by removing this map. The IP performs the next revert, identical in nature. Two additional things make me suspicious: The IP is from Australia, which we know is where Slovenski Volk edits from and as can be seen on his user page. Second, the timing is highly suspicious. Within a minute of SV writing in the talkpage, the IP appears out of nowhere to conveniently agree with him in the talkpage, then revert. SV is the most active editor on that article, and he has very strongly held opinions (which is the indirect reason the 0RR restriction was imposed). I have never seen another contributor from Australia contribute to the article in the four years I have been editing. To me, this is a case of WP:DUCK, though CU should also confirm any sockpuppetry as the edits are within a few minutes of each other. Incidentally, SV has been blocked in the past for socking through IPs to get around 3RR. Athenean (talk) 17:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

One week seems fairly lenient considering the history of edit-warring on this particular subject, his violation of his 0RR several times in the last few days (I'm counting at least 6-7) and now socking through IPs to violate it some more. I have seen other users topic-banned for less, but oh well. Athenean (talk) 19:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * - CU won't connect an IP to an account. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 18:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Per these edits I've blocked the master for a week, and blocked the IP for a week. I'll also list this at WP:ARBMAC. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 19:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Slovenski Volk's last edit is on May 10 2019, Beat of the tapan's first edit is on August 10 2019 . That's exactly 3 months, the length of time CU logs are typically stored for. It is common for sock masters to wait 3 months before starting a new account.
 * On his first day editing, Beat of the tapan starts out immediately with heavy duty editing in obscure articles (e.g. Macedonian Greeks, Macedonian language naming dispute, etc.), making major edits (with prperly formatted references), massive talkpage posts , edit-warring , and templating users . These indicate that it is extremely likely that Beat of the tapan is a returning user.
 * One of the major interests of Slovenski Volk was Ancient Macedonians, and specifically their relation with (and differences from) the Ancient Greeks. He was knowledgeable of the literature and made many adds to to the article such as these  . Beat of the tapan makes vert similar edits.
 * Another article Slovenski Volk was greatly interested in was Origin of the Albanians, despite being ethnic Macedonian himself . Beat of the tapan, despite also being ethnic Macedonian, has also shown interest in Origin of the Albanians . I find the odds of two different users showing the same interest in the origins of an ethnic group other than their own to be very small.
 * In addition to Ancient Macedonians and Origin of the Albanians, there are many other articles, most of them highly obscure Balkan articles, which both accounts have shown interest in.
 * One one occasion during an edit-war, Slovenski Volk edited while logged out to circumvent revert restrictions, revealing an IP address location of New South Wales, Australia . He was blocked for this . Beat of the tapan's time stamp is also consistent a location in Eastern Australia . Most edits are between 21:00 and 12:00 UTC, which corresponds to a window of 7:00 to 22:00 in Eastern Australia (UTC+10). Khirurg (talk) 15:38, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Today, after exactly one year of inactivity, Slovenski Volk made the following extremely bizarre edit. Not only is the edit pure vandalism, it is also totally out of character and in a topic area that Slovenski Volk has never shown interest. I suspect this is related to this SPI and not a coincidence (an attempt to deliberately throw off the Checkuser perhaps?). Khirurg (talk) 00:59, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Update

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 * I un-marked as declined and re-requested checkuser because the master is no longer stale. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 02:48, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * - This case is . Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:06, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * is the best I can give. Use behavior. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 03:48, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm convinced these are the same person. this and this by Slovenski compared to this and this by Beat are almost identical constructions:   .  It's unlikely two random people would write like that.  All the other behavioral evidence is good, but this quartet of diffs is what nails it for me.  I'd indef them both on behavior alone.  -- RoySmith (talk) 02:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , hmm. I'm not sure. Thoughts from other clerks/CUs? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't block. The technical evidence linking these two is really weak, there isn't much in the way of behavioural evidence, and the diffs above don't show abuse of multiple accounts even if these happen to be the same person. – bradv  🍁  14:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , yeah I tend to agree with you. There's no harm here in closing it as is which of course allows for another case to filed if new evidence comes to light. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing, no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:27, 20 May 2020 (UTC)