Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Small Victory/Archive

Report date August 21 2009, 14:44 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Muntuwandi
 * A recent account, 23 June 2009
 * Name is Victorius III is similar to Small Victory. Possibly someone who knows Small Victory.
 * Is largely a single purpose account
 * Edits similar articles, Genetic history of Europe.
 * As a formality Small Victory needs to be cleared because the names are similar.
 * User:SOPHIAN is currently blocked.
 * This edit by Victorius III, is identical to by Small Victory and similar to this by SOPHIAN diff
 * This edit diff by Victorius 3 is similar to diff by Small Victory. The section in question is Genetic_history_of_Europe.

Wapondaponda (talk) 14:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

* 22:37, 20 August 2009 (hist) (diff) m Genetic history of Europe ‎ (top) * 01:09, 5 August 2009 (hist) (diff) Genetic history of Europe ‎ (deleted vandalism) * 00:54, 5 August 2009 (hist) (diff) Genetic history of Europe ‎ (→North African Influences) * 00:50, 5 August 2009 (hist) (diff) Genetic history of Europe ‎ (reverted vandalism) * 12:45, 20 July 2009 (hist) (diff) Genetic history of Europe ‎ (→North African Influences)
 * User:Andrew Lancaster Please note concerns raised prior to this by myself and Pdeitiker. Here are the edits of Victorius III with comments by me:
 * These edits parallel the edits of Small Victory very closely in what is effectively a long running edit dispute between Small Victory and Muntuwandi, in a section which Small Victory has discussed very aggressively on the talk page of the article as well as other talk pages. I note Small Victory is trying to get a specialized article deleted and is also being accused of repeated personal attacks.

* 01:28, 5 August 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:Victorius III ‎ * 01:25, 5 August 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:Victorius III ‎ * 00:45, 5 August 2009 (hist) (diff) User:Victorius III ‎ (←Blanked the page) (top) * 18:22, 22 July 2009 (hist) (diff) User:Victorius III ‎ * 18:20, 22 July 2009 (hist) (diff) N User:Victorius III ‎ (←Created page with '7-6, 4-6, 7-6, 2-6, 6-2')
 * Concerning the user space, the talk page shows the editor explaining himself that he is reverting "back the page to the last version edited by a user named "Small Victory"...because the last user named "Muntuwandi" was POV pushing to an extreme degree trying to imply that haplogroup E in Europe is representative of "Sub Saharan Admixture" when the downstream clades Europeans carry are not of Sub Saharan origin."

* 13:50, 23 July 2009 (hist) (diff) Ashkenazi Jews ‎ (→DNA clues) * 13:42, 23 July 2009 (hist) (diff) Ashkenazi Jews ‎ (→DNA clues)
 * It would be noted by those familiar with the edit war mentioned above that at about the same time as this edit was being made, very similar obsessive remarks about the STRUCTURE method were being inserted into the Genetic history of Europe page by Small Victory. The talk page also shows extensive comments about this. It is not a subject most people seem as obsessed by. Small Victory seems to treat this as a magical scientific word.

* 18:13, 23 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Italic languages ‎ (this is a statement backed up by 0 sources...It's being removed.)
 * This was the accounts first edit. A rude deletion because the material deleted looks correct. No sign of Small Victory being connected.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Requested by Wapondaponda (talk) 14:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * - Do you think you could please find diffs where all three are behaving disruptively similarly? Right now, without looking through their contributions more than cursorily, I don't see enough for a checkuser. NW ( Talk ) 14:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking through the history of that page, I think I see enough for a checkuser. NW ( Talk ) 15:26, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note that the case was renamed from Sockpuppet investigations/Victorius III to Sockpuppet investigations/Small Victory. NW ( Talk ) 15:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * All ❌ to one another. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 18:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Report date August 23 2009, 20:14 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Muntuwandi

recent creation, have similar names and edits similar articles, Genetic history of Europe, and has joined content disputes contra Muntuwandi.


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by Wapondaponda (talk) 20:14, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

behavioral evidence clearly indicates that both accounts are being operated by the same user. The edit summaries and usernames are very similar. MuZemike 21:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Sock blocked indef and master for 1 week. — Jake   Wartenberg  12:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * Master unblocked. Checkuser evidence shows Victoriusmaximus to be a sock of a different user.  —  Jake   Wartenberg  14:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)