Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SmtrSR/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
I have found several pieces of evidence potentially linking these accounts:


 * First of all, almost every article which has been edited by SmtrSR has also been edited by DrhSR as well. For example, the article "Kohra (estate)" has been edited at least two dozen times by DrhSR, and twice by SmtrSR, both times being the last edits before DrhSR's editing sessions (see []).  A similar thing can be found on the article "Bandhalgoti" (see []).


 * Moreover, both users have an interested in Indian geography, as is evidenced by their contributions. Whereas DrhSR seems to have a wider range of interests, SmtrSR is only focused on geograhpy, clans, and estates.


 * Both users seem to have no understanding of Wikipedia content policies. DrhSR, when they wrote the page "Sarosi Estate", simply copy-pasted the contents of one of their sources into the article. SmtrSR, on the other hand, when creating their sandbox article "User:SmtrSR/Kohra (Taluk)", simply took the contents of the original Hindi page and ran them through google translate (see [], User:AriTheHorse/Evidence)


 * On Hindi Wikipedia, both users have even more similar contributions. All of SmtrSR's contribs are on pages that DrhSR has also edited on heavily (compare [] and []).


 * Moreover, I find it strange to see that SmtrSR, though they have only 6 edits, has made several very advanced ones. For example adding an infobox [] (I find them extremely confusing and still avoid them at all costs), and contributing to an AfD discussion . These types of edits, particularly AfD discussions, are not what you would contribute in your first six edits.


 * Lastly, SmtrSR has provided input in one of DrhSR's pending AfD discussions, and, though providing (in my opinion) shaky and improper rationale, eventually supports keeping DrhSR's article. This, I believe, is where this account most egregiously violates Wikipedia Sockpuppet rules, as if they are truly a sockpuppet, then this is the only actual violation of policy.

While this evidence is not conclusive, stronger or even conclusive evidence could be supplied by a CheckUser, as they could settle whether both accounts are editing from the same device, which would almost certainly show that they are connected. AriTheHorsetalk to me! 13:45 (Updated 15:40, again 21:07, again 22:44), 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * They are certainly very much, perhaps a bit more than that if you're willing to stretch it. CU can't confirm, though. . I note , an apparent previous account of DrhSR given username and , but is . --Blablubbs (talk) 12:42, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Per my comment at Sockpuppet investigations/SmtrSR, this page may need merging into that one. Thanks, Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Case merged. Spicy (talk) 00:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Tagged, closing. Spicy (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
While checking an ongoing AfD (Articles for deletion/Sarosi Estate), I noticed suspicious behaviour and ended up finding accounts that seem to be used for sockpuppetry.

The user name of User:Durgesh Singh Rajawat can explain the user name of User:DrhSR, as "Drh", "S", and "R" likely stands for "Durgesh", "Singh", and "Rajawat" respectively. Similarly, User:SmtrSR ends with capital "S" and "R", which likely mean "Singh" and "Rajawat" respectively. These aren't great user name choices if one wants to use them for socking. But that's what is happening here.

Note that these four accounts have been here to promote the nonnotable Kohra estate and the family connected with it. Three of these four accounts have been used by the suspected sockmaster to either remove AfD templates or to oppose the deletion of their articles at AfDs:


 * is a throwaway account that was used for only two days by the suspected master, i.e. on the 27th and 28th of October in 2022. It registered a few hours after User:DrhSR's article (Umanath Singh) was moved to draft sapce and their AfC submission was declined. As that article was nominated for deletion later on that day, this suspect commented at the AfD to oppose the deletion. They weirdly commented that "deletion is not a option", and some hours later  User:DrhSR made a similar comment mentioning the same words, i.e. "deletion is not a option". This suspected sock also removed the AfD template from that article and got warned for that. It became inactive after that.


 * User:DrhSR blanked the talk page of User:Durgesh Singh Rajawat (just like they regularly blank their talk page) without realising that it is not their account, although that's not a policy violation. But the violation came earlier than that when User:Durgesh Singh Rajawat removed AfD template from an article that was created by User:DrhSR when the discussion was still going on, and they got warned for that. Note that, as I mentioned in my previous point, User:ThunderClap11 also removed the template from the same article, namely Umanath Singh.


 * is the oldest of these four accounts. It remained mostly inactive after starting Kohra estate's draft in their user space in August 2022. User:Durgesh Singh Rajawat created and expanded that article in the next month; it has been mainly edited by User:DrhSR since then, although the fourth suspect has added a pic to it which they also uploaded to the Commons. But User:SmtrSR acted as a suspected sock when they became active after half a year just to !vote keep at User:DrhSR's ongoing AfD. NitinMlk (talk) 21:19, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.


 * This should be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/DrhSR AriTheHorsetalk to me! 23:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * , I didn't notice it, as you didn't file the SPI against the oldest account. BTW, as pointed out by the blocking admin, is no longer stale. - NitinMlk (talk) 00:04, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, noted. It doesn't matter really---and you also found a fourth account! Best, AriTheHorsetalk to me! 00:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Behavioral evidence is very strong. I note also that Durgesh Singh Rajawat has requested a name change to Thandarbold97 (Blocking all accounts. [[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark] (comment) 22:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I note that left a comment at Sockpuppet investigations/DrhSR, which probably needs merging with this, but one of the accounts that was stale as of that comment has become active; so FWIW I'm going to take a look too. These will need to be merged thereafter. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well that was easy: Durgesh Singh Rajawat and DrhSR are ✅, and no sleepers are evident to me. Clerks, could you please merge the other SPI I linked above into this? I believe this is at the correct title. I have not exhaustively checked tags either. TIA. Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to do here, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 00:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)