Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Soibangla/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets


An IP opened a thread on Greg L's talk page (Fighting the good fight.) and revealed their other IP. They need to be checked as they geolocate to the same location as the offending IPs. Editors and IPs supporting the bad faith efforts of Greg L should be checked. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:09, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Quoting you: Editors and IPs supporting the bad faith efforts of Greg L should be checked. You didn’t even want to add a qualifier, like “what I believe to be (bad-faith)”?


 * It’s ironic and telling how you find the fact that someone gave me a barnstar with this comment: I have found myself discouraged by the very clear slant and what I would call bird-dogging of a series of current events pages by a small but very clear group of editors with an agenda that flies in the face of WP:NPOV, I saw you did not rise to the bait and stood your ground eloquently and logically in the face of that and I congratulate you for it.… couldn’t possibly be another human with a valid opinion. I hope you do check that I.P. against me; I don’t cheat with socks and never did. Greg L (talk) 18:59, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * "bird-dogging of a series of current events pages by a small but very clear group of editors with an agenda that flies in the face of WP:NPOV," is not a "valid opinion." It's counterfactual and aligned with your constant POV pushing on several articles. You need to stop attacking mainstream editors and RS and stop supporting fringe views.
 * I did not suggest you were socking. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:06, 26 December 2022 (UTC)at
 * I can’t fathom how you could declare that what the I.P. wrote isn’t a "valid opinion." I find that to be a shocking statement, that someone who perceives bird-dogging and an agenda must be wrong. You have this on your user page Republican kamikazes and election deniers. “Kamakazes”?? That sort of vitriol right on a user page could call into question your impartiality here. Do you see political rants like that on my user page? No. I tried to create a user page where I could practice the art of prose and write (hopefully) interesting stories; I didn’t create a giant political-flame-war soapbox. If you did not suggest I was socking, then why would you write Editors and IPs supporting the bad faith efforts of Greg L should be checked? Why should they be checked? Greg L (talk) 19:12, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * "Republican kamikazes" is a quote from Republican Trey Gowdy where he criticizes election deniers in his own party: "So much for elections having consequences or respecting the will of the people or whatever platitudes uttered but only when convenient," Gowdy continued. "This small band of Republican kamikazes are convinced Donald Trump won the presidency in 2020 with 47% of the vote yet somehow Kevin McCarthy lost the speaker's race with 85% of the vote." Gowdy still has a brilliant mind. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:10, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Gah4 was acting suspiciously (see early November), per the comments surrounding this edit. Maybe they should also be checked. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:16, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * What was I doing suspiciously? As far as I remember, it was someone else that said something similar (enough) that someone thought was me, and wasn't. Gah4 (talk) 18:25, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You replied as if you were the IP in question. That's the only reason any suspicion might be aimed at you. Let this play out. You will likely be exonerated. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:47, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * A few things:
 * I have now repeatedly removed extraneous formatting elements from this SPI. Please just stick to the standard case format. It works just fine.
 * I have no idea what exactly is being alleged in this section, or what is supposed to be checked.
 * Is the allegation that the IPs are Gah4, and that Gah4 is Soibangla? If not, this case is misfiled.
 * If the "check" being referred to is "CheckUser", that's not going to happen. See WP:CUIPDISCLOSE.
 * SPI is for fact-finding. It is not for extended debate with people you disagree with about one thing or another. Filings should present evidence, and comments should either discuss the probative value of said evidence, or provide additional evidence.
 * There are some pointers at WP:GOODSPI regarding evidence presentation and formatting.
 * Comments by filers should stay in the filer's section, comments by other users should stay in the "comments by other users" section.
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 19:21, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a mess with no actionable evidence. Closing. Spicy (talk) 00:55, 30 December 2022 (UTC)