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10 October 2012

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This response by Space Cadet on Skoranka's talk page looks like a login to the "wrong" account. SC is topic banned in 2010 from the subject discussed there because of year-long edit wars about placenames. Scarcely used before, the Skoranka account since 2011 exclusively made such placename-related edits matching SC's preference (compare report). During the same period, SC was active only occasionally. SC's edit to Skoranka's talk page is within the scope of the topic ban, as SC is banned also from discussions regarding German naming issues - why would SC break his ban, of all places possible, at Skoranka's talk page after a long period of inactivity? What led SC there at all, just to make a comment sounding more like a response of the accused than like a comment of a third party. The situation resembles SC's earlier socking.

@CU: SC 29 Jul 22:31 vs Skoranka 29 Jul 22:35 - both accounts then stopped editing, so the 3-months-period is almost up, please check soon. Skäpperöd (talk) 10:06, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * Obvious sock is obvious. ✅ to be each other (and thus to having clearly violated the topic ban). &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Skoranka has been indeffed and tagged. I have further blocked Space Cadet for one week per WP:ARBEE for violating and circumventing his topic ban. However I suggest we block him indefinitely. His block log demonstrates that he is prone to breaking his topic ban and this long-standing sock account is evidence for an abusive potential. A topic ban alone did not stop him from violating the terms and conditions set out in ARBEE, so we may need a stronger tool. The usual rights of appealling will however be granted so if Space Cadet demonstrates credibly that he will no longer circumvent or violate his topic ban, then the block may be lifted. De728631 (talk) 19:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * One week is pretty light, but indef might be strong since his last block was 4 years ago. (for socking only, not counting any other factors) I would leave that to your own discretion since you know more about the situation than the clerks do.  Will close as is and leave you to your decision.  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 01:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

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Space Cadet edited from April 2002 to April 2015. . In January 2008, Space Cadet was notified about Discretionary Sanctions authorized by WP:ARBEE, and in April 2010 Space Cadet was indefinitely topic banned by Sandstein from "Germany and Germans, broadly construed" .In October 2012, a sock, Skoranka, which had been used to get around the topic ban, was blocked as an obvious duck, and Space Cadet was blocked for a week. .A new editor, Space Veteran, appeared in April 2018, and is still editing. . They have made numerous edits to "Germany and Germans, broadly construed", to articles such as State of the Teutonic Order, Duchy of Prussia, Johann Albrecht Adelgrief, Andreas Schlüter, Johann Fugger the Elder, Johann Gramann, German Empire, Frederick the Great, etc. etc. etc.In May 2018, an editor noticed a distinct similarity between the edits of Space Cadet and Space Veteran. . Space Veteran's reaction was interesting, to say the least: After pretending not to know who Space Cadet was, they wrote "You're talking about a disruptive edit warrior with a big Block Log. I guess if I start fighting and build a substantial Block Log, that would mean "yes"' or a definite "maybe". That would be a similarity. A dangerous similarity. I have to disappear for about 3 weeks." and then, immediately after, "Heavens, no."In fact, there is very little doubt that Space Cadet and Space Veteran are the same editor. In addition to the obvious similarity of names, the Editor Interaction Analyser report on the two shows 62 articles that both have edited. . If the sock, Skoranka, is added, there are 78 articles in common. .Clearly, Space Veteran is Space Cadet, and clearly they are violating their topic ban, which -- as far as I am aware -- has never been lifted.This report does not require a CU, the evidence is straight forward, and Space Veteran and Space Cadet should both be sanctioned for socking and violating a topic ban. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:18, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd like to request some action on this report, since Space Veteran continues to edit German- and Germany-related articles in blatant violation of the topic ban imposed on Space Cadet. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * This is a difficult one, mostly because it's been five years since Space Cadet last edited, even longer since they last edited in the Germany topic area. Behaviors change, after all. However, I am convinced by the significant interaction overlap (especially on some fairly obscure articles) and shared interest in nationalities in the (modern) Germany/Poland area and Polish diacritics, plus the username. I am calling this an invalid WP:CLEANSTART (since the original account was under sanctions). I have put a very direct message on their talk page telling them to go to AE, and if they ignore it I will indef them. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC)