Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Spacini/Archive

28 March 2011

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Similar disruptive editing on Kansas State University with similarly disruptive edit summaries from the two IPs such as "Doo, doo, doo! Inserting factually verifiable information into a purported encyclopedia--that citation has been provided for! Waiting for reversion to verifiably wrong and incorrect information! Wikigroaning!)", "Not trying anymore, you anti-intellectual fucks. I leave shit alone for weeks, hoping someone will have the gumption to fucking research fucking facts. I'm done. There's 'Truth', which is contestable and open to debate, And then there's fact.." These edits are in support of a position first advanced by Spacini: that the article ignore many WP:RS statements otherwise to proclaim that the university's "real" name is "Kansas State University of Agriculture and Applied Science." I find it hard to guess why anybody would care so much except Spacini, who has also apparently used his position at K-State to change multiple university webpages to support his POV. IMO these accounts should be compared to each other and to Spacini. Whatever the outcome of checkuser, the many offensive comments made by 24.143.39.73, particularly this one, merit a permanent block. Sharktopus talk  02:39, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I don't understand checkuser. I did not see this as a request to ferret out the IP used by Spacini, but as a request to determine if a single user-agent was abusing multiple accounts to give the appearance of support to Spacini's opinions. Sharktopus  talk  03:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's news to me. They won't tell you the IP if you don't know it, but when you've got one, there's no reason they can't do a comparison. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If SPIs can't include both named accounts and IPs, why does the template for filing one include both? Sharktopus  talk  03:59, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've seen HelloAnnyong make this kind of statement before, and I suspect he's got it wrong, but hopefully we'll find out, as I've asked a checkuser to come here and clarify. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:07, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * By the way, according to the school's own history page, that longer name "Kansas State University of Agriculture and Applied Science" was chosen in 1959, and there's no overt indication it was shortened. However, their official seal and such stuff as that merely says "Kansas State University". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * And this page is even more explicit. Spacini and especially the IP's may be belligerent, but it looks to me like they've got the facts right. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look at the Wayback Machine, those pages on k-state websites used to contradict, not support, Spacini's claim. According to Talk:Kansas State University, those pages were changed by Spacini, who self-identifies as a KSU librarian, after other editors pointed out that they disagreed with him. I think that substantially undermines them as WP:RS supporting his claim. Sharktopus  talk  04:29, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If so, then shame on him. However, did he also manipulate the state legislature article? And at what point, then, did the school cease to have that long name? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:38, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * My guess is that the legislature may very well use a longer version of the name but nobody else does, including the university's home page. Until someone recently changed them, the university's online history pages described the event in 1959 as giving it the name "Kansas State University." WP's article does mention the longer version of the name; their dispute is over putting the longer version into the lead and using the longer version rather than the common name as the bolded text. I don't really have a dog in this fight other than wishing that some sensible admin would block 24.143.39.73. I got involved in the ANI discussion only because I (mistakenly) thought the dispute was about the article title, which would of course be governed by WP:COMMONNAME.  Sharktopus  talk  04:55, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The legislature uses both names interchangeably (this information is now included in the article). Shark, I agree that this person's behavior clearly violates WP:CIVIL and should be blocked ASAP (8 warnings is enough).  — BQZip01 —  talk 01:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * On top of this, the user actively says he has multiple IPs and flaunts blocks. An investigation is warranted, IMNSHO. — BQZip01 —  talk 01:55, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

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 * - CU won't connect an IP to an account. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:49, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Moreover, it looks like the two IPs were clearly used by the same person (just at different times). That said, having compared editing patterns and behaviors between the IPs and Spacini, I have a rather difficult time concluding that they're all related, aside from participating in the Kansas State University dispute. That is, not even looking at CU, I don't think the IPs are related to Spacini. –MuZemike 04:11, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Due to persistent disruption by the IPs, all of which are clearly the same person, at Kansas State University, I have semi-protected the article for 1 week. –MuZemike 17:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Since Muzemike's protecting, these accounts have gone quiet. Relist if things start up again. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)