Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sschubert/Archive

Evidence submitted by SandyGeorgia
See this discussion for complete details and diffs. A number of students from Murdoch University, and several possibly related Australian IPs, have been removing a POV tag and adding External links to, an area ripe for quackery. A google search on information supplied by one of the accounts on her talk turns up a list of student names; those names indicate meatpuppetry is most likely in play here. Two of the accounts appeared to edit from the same IP, or to edit each other's comments (see diffs in link above). Meatpuppetry to sway consensus seems to be apparent, and seems not to require a CU, but the CU may help determine involvement of the other IPS. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 06:33, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Re to Sschubert: no, the concern is coordinated meatpuppetry from a group of students, and whether the IPs are socks. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 14:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

I've just seen this page. I am not entirely sure what "socketpuppetry is". From a brief look I think that you are saying that I'm editing as the above authors. I do not really feel that comfortable having to reveal the names of the other editors, but it is clear that I am SSchubert (sarah schubert), editor GeraldZeng, is Gerald Zeng, and editor cwl is the editor Dr Chris Lee (initials cwl). All work at Murodoch University, Australia. Dr Chris Lee is not a student. Anyone familiar with EMDR literature would know his expertise in the area, and it can ben seen that he has been contributing to this page for a number of years I believe. I am a clinician, am published in the area of EMDR, and am completing a PhD investigating EMDR also. I hope this is all the information that is needed here. I feel that this may have come about as editor Ronz has different opinions about EMDR than myself, and has largely taken ownership of the page. I believe it is his edits that may warrant investigation.Sschubert (talk) 11:56, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
I'm leaning towards declining this CU request on privacy grounds (i.e. we do not try and link accounts to IPs on-wiki if that is not known), but I'd like to get a second opinion from a clerk on this. –MuZemike 18:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I somewhat agree, but I'm not that familiar with it so I'll leave it on hold. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 16:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

per CheckUser using checkuser to link accounts to IPs is not desirable. Since this is suspected meatpuppetry, checkuser isn't likely to tell you much in terms of pulling up other accounts (just noting that, although I'm aware that's not what Georgia requested CU for). Kindest regard, SpitfireTally-ho! 00:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to step in and mark this for close. The IPs haven't edited in a long time (except for some odd one-off vandalism from one) and the accounts haven't either. Further attempts to influence consensus can and should be reported, but at this point, I don't think there's much to do. TN X Man  16:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)