Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Startnow65/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

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 * All three happen to go by "real names" - Angelika M. Schroeder, Josiah Adenegan, and Christian Trautenberg - which is kind of strange, given that they are all commenting on the same AfD: Articles for deletion/Andrew & Alaina Mack. They also have no history of participating in AfD discussions, but magically and coincidentally, all three are concerned about the same AfD.
 * Both Angelika and Christian have edited articles about York, Pennsylvania.
 * All three have similar writing styles, as seen in the AfD, and use detailed descriptions for their edit summaries that, again, are similar in style. You can see it their edit histories: and again, the AfD I have linked to.
 * Finally, Christian and Angelika also coincidentally edit about Berlin-related subjects, as seen in their edit histories.
 * I acknowledge that User:Startnow65 is the wildcard, but, their use of a real name in the AfD conversation and the detailed edit summary is rather similar to the other two accounts. Missvain (talk) 15:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * Good afternoon. I am a single user living in Berlin and do not represent other individuals. The comment mentioned below that I wrote using the "we" is pulling from an edit I made on the German Wikipedia and I utilized "we" in German to reflect a more formal and distant style of writing. Sorry if this indicated that I am more than one individual. I am wiling to answer any questions about my account to defend the standing of my account. I have made positive contributions to many pages about Berlin and hope to continue to do so. The mention that I edited a page about York, Pennsylvania was only in connection to a list of artists born there which the page in question is a Berlin based artistic group from that US city. Otherwise I have no contribution to make to that place. Christian Trautenberg (talk) 15:18, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no connection to the other accounts. I am surprised as to the level of interest this case has gotten but it is definitely helpful and informative for me as I do hope to be a positive contributor to this platform and will definitely pay attention to these issues henceforth. Finally, I do apologize for living out my German language royal aspirations online... I should probably find another platform to impersonate a medieval Holy Roman Emperor. --Christian Trautenberg (talk) 19:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I indeed know the brand but realized too late that supporting it this way might come off as being a meatpuppet. My account is however separate, I do not own or manage the other two accounts. Startnow65 (talk) 17:46, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * - per filing. These accounts all look very similar, but I'd like to figure out if it's sock or meat (guessing the former); there's also a whiff of COI/UPE here and the oldest account is from 2018, so a sleeper check seems warranted. Also noting that Trautenberg refers to himself as "we" in w:de:Special:Diff/210661271. If there are no older accounts found, this should be moved to Startnow65, the oldest account. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 15:09, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * So you deny having any connection to and ? On a sidenote, as a native speaker of German I'd recommend not referring to yourself as "wir" – that only exists as the Pluralis Majestatis. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 15:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * to one another:
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * - please block all three indefinitely. Given the "real name" pattern and highly similar, idiosyncratic writing style, I think it's likely that Startnow is also a sock – considering that their second edit was to help play keep brigade in this AfD, I'm pretty confident that they are, at the very least, a meatpuppet. Thanks. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 15:46, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Blocked. Back to .  Cabayi (talk) 07:48, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks!, closing. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 08:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)