Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Surasaman/Archive

23 March 2013

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This SPI is based on this English Wikinews CU which found it was inconclusive as to if Computron is Surasaman/Onewhohelps/Thepoliticalmaster. They have admitted on IRC in the #wikinews chatroom that they know Onewhohelps. They are doing the same things on IRC in terms of Wikinews that got them blocked on English Wikipedia. They appear to be a knowledgeable newcomer on the project who cannot and does not get concepts that have been repeatedly explained to them. They are eating up community resources more than other users with little drama spurts. There are tiny bits of personal drama. This all reads as classic Onewhohelps, which coupled with the admission of knowing Onewhohelps, makes it seem like an obvious WP:DUCK. While I normally would not report a problematic Wikinews sock to Wikipedia, this is a special case as this user has been globally blocked from all Wikimedia Foundation projects. LauraHale (talk) 05:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Just to be clear:Not asking for a CU. Asking for WP:DUCK block. --LauraHale (talk) 05:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Focusing on the en.wn aspect because that is where the problem is, but here because he is globally blocked.
 * As one of Surasaman's key traits that is cited in the indef block report was the IRC actions, it is difficult to provide IRC logs.


 * On IRC, he has been repeatedly told the definition of photoessay, which means only one paragraph and lots of pictures. This has gotten to the point of obnoxious.  Then he  adds that category.  He was told that substantial work needs to be done on IRC and repeatedly on IRC for things to be considered original reporting.   Then comes and does this. Subsequently, we end up with IRC conversations where several users make every effort to be nice and explain why this is true but met with more walls of failure to understand. This again typifies what Steven Zhang outlined in the ANI discussion that led to his blocking under duck.


 * The Onewhohelps/Thepoliticalmaster/Surasaman things show eating up of community time with contributors putting in lots of work to explain things they should know. Their actions on IRC and wiki led to similar timesinks.   The user is responsible for 75% of the time reviewers and admins are putting into the project for things that have been explained.


 * The admission of Computron knowing Onewhohelps is from IRC and I can see about getting the logs and submitting them via OTRS. --LauraHale (talk) 21:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Computron on IRC admits to doing things on his mobile device. He has requested he not be pinged because it crashes his browser.  This was also the case with Onewhohelps, who had a mobile account on en-wp and en-wn.


 * Both users have had problems with misleading titles. (Onewhohelps) (Computron)(previous version deleted)


 * Both accounts were writing in the same topic areas: African political conflicts. Computron: . Onewhohelps: . Middle east conflicts: Onewhohelps. . Computron:.


 * Both had imported images locally to the project rather than uploading to Commons even when there is an acceptable Commons usable license. Onewhohelps: Computron:  (deleted image uploaded by Computron and deleted locally by admins because it was commons acceptable)

English Wikipedia:
 * Both Onewhohelps (known Surasaman sock), Thepoliticalmaster (known sock) and Computron do vandalism patrol. Onewhohelps: Thepoliticalmaster:  Computron:   Edit summaries in how they deal with vandalism are pretty much the same.

English Wikibooks:
 * All three (Thepoliticalmaster, onewhohelps, computron) showed up on English Wikibooks.
 * With one exception for computron, all edit summaries were written in lowercase.

Comments by other users
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 * Thanks for the report, but it's all a bit wordy and you haven't actually provided any en.wiki evidence. Please provide diffs to support the case. Basa lisk  inspect damage⁄berate 14:56, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * - I agree with Basalisk that there is not enough clear evidence of socking, and it doesn't help that the arguments go sprawling across multiple projects. A lot of what you have presented seem completely incidental, such as having similar interests or two "socks" using the same automated edit summaries. We need real behavioral evidence that these are the same people. Specifically, we need a very clear, preferably concise, argument that Computron and Surasaman are the same editor. I've placed this case on hold for the time being. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing with no action, per above reasoning. This case may be reopened if anyone wishes to present new evidence. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:58, 31 March 2013 (UTC)