Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SusanLesch/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets




Evidence submitted by 7oceans
Desperate attempts to attack the subject of a BLP Vivek Kundra from 08/12/2009 to present. Latest attempt to create posting over a contentious material under the ID of TruPrint on 10/21/2009 which was created on the same day. The wording of this posting is almost identical to that posted by SusanLesch, IP 67.243.39.12, and Atama over this period. When Atama stopped reverting edits after 2 attempts, SusanLesch appeared out of nowhere after a month of silence to revert the edit herself. The language and the arguments presented in the discussion section are also practically identical. Relentlessly and purposefully injected controversial subject matter under different IDs in diferent sections.

Wording is practically identical over a three month period and posted at monthly intervals(Interesting - someone has a monthly Outlook appointment):
 * 1) 00:19, 12 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (9,951 bytes) (Undid, unexplained removal of cited content)
 * Wording: In 1997 Kundra was convicted of shoplifting a number of dress shirts from a JC Penny department store.
 * 2) 01:24, 18 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) (10,137 bytes) (→Early life and education: re-adding shoplifting, also adding resolution) (undo)
 * Wording: In 1997 Kundra was convicted of shoplifting four dress shirts from a JC Penny department store, an incident the White House said was resolved long ago
 * 3) 16:37, 18 August 2009 Atama (talk | contribs) (10,243 bytes) (→Early life and education: Adding a little bit of context to the shoplifting statement, to show how the incident was resolved.)
 * Wording: In 1997 Kundra was convicted of shoplifting four dress shirts from a JC Penny department store, an incident the White House said was resolved long ago. He pled guilty and was fined US$155, and served 80 hours of customer service.
 * 4) 17:35, 18 August 2009 Atama (talk | contribs) (10,168 bytes) (→Early life and education: Reduced shoplifting info per talk page discussion, still including info that he pled guilty.) (undo)
 * Wording: In 1997 Kundra pled guilty to shoplifting four dress shirts from a JC Penney department store, an incident the White House said was resolved long ago.
 * 5) 17:15, 20 September 2009 67.243.39.12 (talk) (11,511 bytes) (→Early life and education: modified shoplifting from "convicted" to "pleaded guilty") (undo)
 * Wording: In 1997 Kundra pleaded guilty to shoplifting a number of dress shirts from a JC Penney department store
 * 6) 22:37, 21 October 2009 Truprint (talk | contribs) (12,158 bytes) (→Federal Chief Information Officer (CIO): leave from Fed CIO 7oceans (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)) (undo)
 * Wording: During this time it was revealed that Kundra had been arrested in 1996 for theft of less than $300 and pleaded guilty. The White House spokesperson characterized the incident as a "youthful indiscretion" for which Kundra performed community service.

Eleven (11) reverted edits by SusanLesch on this exact subject matter over this time
 * 02:43, 24 October 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (13,192 bytes) (Undid deletion of sourced information) (undo)
 * 01:24, 18 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) (10,137 bytes) (→Early life and education: re-adding shoplifting, also adding resolution) (undo)
 * 03:19, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (10,074 bytes) (Reverted edits by 57.67.16.50 (talk) to last version by SusanLesch) (undo)
 * 03:19, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (10,074 bytes) (Reverted edits by 57.67.16.50 (talk) to last version by SusanLesch) (undo)
 * 02:11, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (10,074 bytes) (Reverted edits by 67.102.233.237 (talk) to last version by SusanLesch) (undo)
 * 01:54, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (10,074 bytes) (Reverted edits by 170.170.59.138 (talk) to last version by SusanLesch) (undo)
 * 01:48, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) (10,074 bytes) (Undid exclusion of cited material) (undo)
 * 01:07, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (10,061 bytes) (Reverted edits by 67.102.233.237 (talk) to last version by 57.67.16.50) (undo)
 * 00:22, 17 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (10,476 bytes) (Undid exclusion of cited material) (undo)
 * 22:44, 16 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) (9,814 bytes) (→Early life and education: shoplifting) (undo)
 * 00:19, 12 August 2009 SusanLesch (talk | contribs) m (9,951 bytes) (Undid, unexplained removal of cited content) (undo)

Five (5) reverted edits by 67.243.39.12 on this matter
 * 19:07, 21 September 2009 67.243.39.12 (talk) (11,372 bytes) (→CIO agenda: renamed section, removing the "agenda") (undo)
 * 18:26, 20 September 2009 67.243.39.12 (talk) (11,511 bytes) (Undid revision 315125731 by 7oceans (talk) See WP:WELLKNOWN) (undo)
 * 17:15, 20 September 2009 67.243.39.12 (talk) (11,511 bytes) (→Early life and education: modified shoplifting from "convicted" to "pleaded guilty") (undo)
 * 17:02, 20 September 2009 67.243.39.12 (talk) (11,510 bytes) (→Early life and education: fixed typo) (undo)
 * 16:56, 20 September 2009 67.243.39.12 (talk) (11,509 bytes) (→Early life and education: Restored the shoplifting charges paragraph.) (undo)

Three (3) reverted edits Atama on this matter
 * 16:08, 23 October 2009 Atama (talk | contribs) (13,097 bytes) (Undid revision 321571382 by 173.12.38.241 (talk) Don't remove information while discussion is occurring.) (undo)
 * 18:49, 22 October 2009 Atama (talk | contribs) (13,097 bytes) (Undid revision 321391461 by 7oceans (talk) Rv sourced content removal without explanation. Possible sock/meatpuppetry.) (undo)
 * 17:20, 18 August 2009 Atama (talk | contribs) (10,248 bytes) (Undid revision 308711369 by Horologium (talk) Rv removal of sourced information.) (undo)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Hi. Seems to be an attempt to protect the article Vivek Kundra (this edit says NPOV and COI} rather than anything to do with sockpuppets. In any case I am me and don't use any fake names online. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh neat, I'm accused of being a sockpuppet now. :) This is new. I support the use of checkuser, I've never edited Wikipedia under any other account. If any of the other people mentioned above are socks, that would be helpful to know as well. --  At am a  頭 18:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me add, if I'm the same person as Reconsider the static, why did I recently report him to the edit war noticeboard? --  At am a  頭 18:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments by other users
Just in case anyone hasn't noticed the editor who filed this report has been accused of being a sock here. I'm kinda surprised not to be included myself.....

CheckUser requests
Requested by 7oceans (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * There's not a huge amount of valid evidence to consider here, but I think it's important to clear this case.


 * All of the above accounts are ❌ to each other - A l is o n  ❤ 18:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions

 * I was about to decline the case, but that is rendered moot by Alison's check. Closing per that. NW ( Talk ) 18:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)