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Repeated attempts to create articles about themselves or their company e.g. Talk:Swarup S. Solanki and Draft:Lookup Cyber Solutions (Lookup Inc.). Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:24, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Nothing left to do here. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 17:58, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

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Creating Talk:Swarup S. Solanki (now deleted per G4, G5 and G8). As has been done before by a previous IP reported here. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:23, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * That's an easy call. The IP user was adding the same self-promotion as the sock master and other IP users have done. IP address has been blocked for 72 hours. Closing SPI report...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Creation of Draft:Swarup S. Solanki, like CU confirmed User:Ankitasharmawriter did. Similar range to very recently blocked IP. Also deleted edit summary by Ankitasharmawriter uses very similar to edit summary used by IP (I.e. strong references). See Special:Diff/932105076 and deleted from account. Looks like a duck to me. A range block may be in order soon. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:22, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked one week. Closing. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 20:44, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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obvious duck is obvious, shortened name of master. Praxidicae (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

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Same types of edits on the same page. – Frood (talk) 05:28, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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IP posted on my talk page to recreate the article. Same range as an IP reported in the original SPI, which also reposted the content (for administrators). Likley not to be a meat puppet as both IPs are on the same internet provider and geolocate to the same city (see https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/123.201.227.136 and https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/219.91.238.36 which is where I got the information from). Although this IP is not reposting, it is still evading the block. It may be this person does not understand that they are evading the block, but they have evaded with accounts before. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:54, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Okie dokie. Half thought about responding, but suspected it was the same person, so thought it was better to post here. Thanks. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Yesterday, created Draft:Swaroop Solanki, which I tagged as G5 and was speedily deleted. I mention this now because the individual, or someone with a conflict of interest, is tendentiously trying to recreate the (auto)biography. What is more, the latest draft, which they claim is supported by citations from reliable sources, makes extraordinary claims that other young Indian computer scientists and Solanki are one and the same person. The new citations that they have introduced reference those other people, and Solanki is claiming their notability as his. Note also that in the title of the latest draft he's spelt his first name differently in order to evade the salt. Such behaviour tells me they are not here to build an encyclopedia, they are attempting to game the system, and that we need to make it clear to them that there will never be an article about them on Wikipedia, so they should give up trying. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:47, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's also worth noting that this is a waste of editors time to put on the kid gloves with them. They are globally blocked and locked for trying to spread their garbage everywhere and in my opinion, should be blocked on sight. Praxidicae (talk) 15:52, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I've just seen there's yet another version today, Draft:Swarup_Kumar_Solanki, created by . Tagging as G5. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Clearly meat, not just because of the IP and the subject, but also because they used the plural "we" in their question. But, I just can't find it in me to block them for asking a question about what they're allowed to do.   my suggestion is that you respond to their query and explain to them our rules about socking.  If somebody else wants to block the IP, I won't object.  -- RoySmith (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing this case. They have been warned, I do not think an block is necessary at the moment (no other edits have been made). Please feel free to re-report,, should they start doing anything disruptive. The SandDoctor  Talk 10:09, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

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IP is similar (same first three octets (the numbers between the dots) are the same) to the one reported by me but warned. Posted a version of the draft similar to deleted versions by the blocked user, so meatpuppetry. Due to the similar IP and the time between the first IPs edits and this IPs edits, it's possible it is the same person due to the computer being assigned a new IP address (and if it is, it is meatpuppetry after a warning). Similar content to previously posted drafts, such as talking about Lookup Solutions and saying that the person is employed by google. See Draft:Swarup S. Solanki. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:12, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * IP stale. Draft deleted. Nothing more to do. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 16:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

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Creation of Draft:Swarup Solanki. Not sure how the IP created it seeing as it can only be created by established users. Some kind of software bug? Blanking of the sockpuppet category suggests to me that the user knows that they are ban evading or are a meatpuppet. A range block might need to be used as the creation of drafts is a relatively constant thing. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 18:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Another IP in the same /24 range has recreated again. I have opened a task in Phabricator to try and fix the issue. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:21, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Turns out create protection is removed after the page is created. This now makes sense. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:43, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * The creation of the same exact article title, the creation of similar revisions from previous socks, and the IP's range - all point to this being continued abuse by the same person. I've blocked 219.91.238.0/24 for one week. Closing SPI report...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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Created Draft:Swaroop Solanki, a spelling variation but much the same content as a series of drafts about this person created by the known sockmaster. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Obvious behavior, I indeffed them on Commons. See also my sock list. --Achim (talk) 13:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * AyushiKaurGill is globally locked. Nothing more to do. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 11:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

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From there talk page linked to Draft:Swarup Solanki (computer scientist) repeat behaviour see Draft:Swarup Solanki (computer scientist), Draft:Swarup Solanki. Also created Template:Google employees with same fake "Swarup Solanki" google employee. Note also claiming to be an admin on user page, and adding false GA top icons KylieTastic (talk) 10:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

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Same behaviour as before - adding themselves to Template:Google employees and making fake drafts Draft:Swarup Solanki (SSO) KylieTastic (talk) 15:05, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅, ST47 (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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Both suspected socks were registered after the master was blocked. Jatram20's only edit was to and HeySundar first made some random edits and then accepted the submission on the same draft (It was submitted for review by the master). <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 12:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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✅ to. . Please merge this report into the other case.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:49, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Case merged from Vikas.bikaneri to Swarup Kumar Solanki —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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posting the same rubbish as always Draft:Swarup solanki KylieTastic (talk) 19:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * It's them, but we likely don't need to keep doing sleeper checks. Please leave for admins to handle the next case. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 22:27, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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The account was created a few days ago and made whooping 200+ edits in a week. First made some random edits and created some random pages and then shifted his focus to Draft:Harsh Beniwal that was last edited by and 2401:4900:41de:5b2b:0:2a:f16c:eb01. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 08:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Mr Tejal's also edited and submitted Draft:Bhamatsar (previously created by Vikas.bikaneri) and Draft:Sumit Godara for review. Both drafts were created by 171.79.178.113/112 geo-located the same area as the suspected sock and Vikas.bikaneri. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 04:19, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Account blocked and tagged based on the evidence presented here. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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The article Saket Modi (an Indian celebrity hacker/entrepreneur) has been a constant PROMO/COI problem for years we finally gave up and redirected it. They recently socially engineered another editor to restore the article. Within hours, User:AshishSharma112 edited the article, who I see above has been blocked as part of this investigation. Possibly investigate the IP as they are the one that posted at User_talk:Abishe (the social engineering). -- Green  C  15:01, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * User:Kashish pall please check the same user in simple english wikipedia, user was missbehaving me in my simple wikipedia talkpage, here is the evidence here. --<b style="color:Red">Cute</b><b style="color:Orange">Meow</b> ( talk ) 09:25, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

The suspected sock account was created the same day was registered. Editing in the same area, creating the same kind of promotional articles and started Draft:Harsh Beniwal in their sandbox a day after was blocked. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 05:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * I concur, arrived here via slash Harsh Beniwal (YouTuber) and  slash User:Kashish pall/sandbox ☆ Bri (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged based on the behaviour. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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I came across Swaroop Solanki (now in draft space), more specifically its talk page, where the author inserted templates (now removed) to suggest the article had been through AfC. No draft article, or redirect existed. The user should be a noob, given the number of edits, but seems very aware of how the AfC system works and tried to game the system. Given the subject, I find it more than likely this user is a sock. Kleuske (talk) 12:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked based on behaviour. – bradv  🍁  20:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

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Close resemblance to one of the previous socks, the similarly-named. Cf this and this by Vikas.bikaneri, and this and this by Mr. Bikaneri. bonadea contributions talk 11:48, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Here is another parallel between a recently blocked SKS sock,, and Mr. Bikaneri: post by Mr Tejal, post by Mr. Bikaneri, and another one by Mr. B. --bonadea contributions talk 15:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * No need for a sleeper check. Blocked based on the behaviour and closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:17, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

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see this draft creation and demand on my talk page Praxidicae (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

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The IP geolocated the same area as one of their previous IP addresses (171.79.178.113) and created Draft:Raj Kumar Gaur which Viki Tuber edited and submitted for a review. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 10:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Viki Tuber and are ✅ to each other and this master (through their socks). . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocking and tagging all the user accounts. No point doing anything with the IP unless there's some long-term abusing going on there. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Could someone please checkout whether you think there's a rangeblock in this. I'm not sure that the collateral damage is warranted in this situation but I'd appreciate a 2O. Let me know if you decide to block and I can close it for you. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:51, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't - looks like too much collateral damage to get the necessary ranges. ST47 (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Recreation of Draft:Harsh Beniwal in the manner of previous socks. As this account has been around for a while and was not picked up by previous SPIs, there may be further socks which may be uncovered by a new CU. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 15:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

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I have added to the investigation. This user has been involved with another article that has been repeatedly created by SKS socks under different titles, namely Amit Bhadana (see deletion logs for Amit Bhadana, and Draft:Amit Bhadana, and Draft:Amit Bhadana (youtuber) – the article currently exists at Amit Bhadana (comedian), having been moved there in good faith by an unconnected editor). Previous SKS socks who were involved with Amit Bhadana include see diff (who was also concerned with Harsh Beniwal) and  see diff (who was also concerned with Harsh Beniwal...) There is also Draft:Indu Devi Tard, created by Hindu Viki today, and previously by  who was blocked as a SKS sock two weeks ago. --bonadea contributions talk 19:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * It's worth noting that Iamsouravrana predates Swarup Kumar Solanki by about 4 months. August 2018 vs. December 2018 user creation dates. And Iamsouravrana was editing the live space Harsh Beniwal article prior to the SKS entities, circa 2018. Also, since the SKS master is stale, we'd be asking a CU to look at  or maybe others in the archive for a potential link. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * - Hindu Viki is definitely a match, recommend a check for the other account which is a possible match. <span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"> qedk ( t  愛  c ) 12:05, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Best I can say is the accounts are to each other and to the master. Behavior should be the deciding factor in this case. Mz7 (talk) 20:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * After comparing the behavior of Iamsouravrana and Hindu Viki, Iamsouravrana feels like a different person, and as Cyphoidbomb mentioned, the timing doesn't quite line up. I suspect that these are simply two separate fans of the YouTuber—I'm going to delete the newly created draft and salt the title. No action on Iamsouravrana at this time. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 19:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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Yet another creation of Draft:Harsh Beniwal. There can be no comment on the IP itself, but might it possibly connect the dots between other socks? --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 15:05, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Unfortunately, even if a check of this IP would cause the dots to connect better, we cannot say that the dots connected because of a check of this IP. Mz7 (talk) 19:41, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Behavioral evidence isn't strong enough for a block here - the article as created by the IP is fairly different from the article created by previous socks. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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IP created Draft:Svarup Solanki, then BanchhanidhiPani moved it to mainspace as Svarup Solanki and then again to Swarup Solanki. Article has been tagged for AfD (and subsequently G5)--sock has been trying to remove the AfD tags (diff1, diff2). IP is in range used by previous socks. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 15:20, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Update: Sock has been globally locked. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  15:03, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * With the account locked and the IP likely stale, no further action is needed here. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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The IP (geolocated in the same area as 219.91.225.222 and more in the archive) created Draft:Lookup Cyber Solutions and Sandhya Bhullar who was registered on 22nd, first made some random edits and immediately after reaching the autoconfirmed status moved the draft to main. The draft was last moved by one of SKS socks. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 17:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Sandhya Bhullar is ✅ to BanchhanidhiPani which is the latest case in the archive. They look to socks which have been confirmed to Swarup Kumar Solanki in the archive. Read into that what you will. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:43, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to do here. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Lock requested for Sandhya Bhullar. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:05, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Quacked out an inquiry at the Help Desk regarding creation of Sapna Choudhary and Swarup Solanki. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 20:12, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * Per an IRC discussion with and, Priyanka is "likely" related to SKS. ,  GeneralNotability (talk) 18:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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Based on their interests on editing on pages R Nait and Kalpana Devi (politician) <b style="color:#060">Angus</b><sup style="color:#800080">1986  TALK  17:14, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Yes, I am a block and ban user. I admit my mistake I was banned on Wikipedia when I spammed here. But after that I create all the accounts, I did not commit any barbarity in that. Now I know a lot about the rules of Wikipedia, and I am also learning more. I had no knowledge at that time. I apologize for any mistake I have made. I will just say that, don't turn me on Wikipedia now. The rest is right for you. Bharat Ka Wikipedian (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Bharat Ka Wikipedian is ✅ to Mr. Wiki Indian, who is a sock in Sockpuppet investigations/Swarup Kumar Solanki. Dhrmpreeet is technically ❌. - would you please merge and action as appropriate? Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 17:50, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Moved per CU request. GeneralNotability (talk) 17:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Bharat Ka Wikipedian,, haven't examined the IPs yet. GeneralNotability (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand that you must be frustrated, but the correct course of action is to request an unblock on your original account. In this case, that's more difficult because you've been locked, but that lock can be removed if you present an otherwise-convincing unblock appeal that is compliant with all of the guidelines for those appeals to the Arbitration Committee. Best, Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 21:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * None of the IPs have edited in a week, so not taking any action there. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:06, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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Posting drafts about themselves again Draft:Swarup Solanki (Author) KylieTastic (talk) 19:07, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * ,, GeneralNotability (talk) 19:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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Almost the same username and editing on the same pages GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 14:49, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * There is also a commonality with -- Blocked as a sock of Sockpuppet investigations/ImSonyR9 -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 16:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Same as 13 September case. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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On 18 September 2020, Sapna RJ 07, as their first logged edit, posted on my talk page, asking me to review and accept Draft:R Nait. I raised an eyebrow; because I don't work at WP:AFC, and have never shown any interest in the topic area of that draft (because I haven't any). I did some digging, bookmarked some pages, decided that an account with only 3 edits wasn't worth wasting anyone's time with, and posted a reply giving advice.

Sapna RJ 07 hasn't edited Draft:R Nait; but User:Bharat Ka Wikipedian and User:Bikaneri Wikipedian, a sock and a suspected sock of User:Swarup Kumar Solanki, did, between 5 and 12 September 2020 (edit history). Sapna RJ 07 has now started working in their sandbox on an article about Harsh Beniwal (latest version), a person mentioned several times in the archives of this SPI. See Draft:Harsh Beniwal for the deletion history. I suspect a WP:DUCK. (I don't have magic glasses, and can't see what the deleted pages looked like.)

I also found Draft:Harsh Beniwal (YouTuber); which may be unconnected, and I mention only for completeness. Narky Blert (talk) 14:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment by nom. Probably moot, and ready for clerking, any necessary minor cleanup, and archiving. "This account (Sapna RJ 07) is globally locked (23 September 2020)."
 * Ya gotta love the WP:ES "History suggests that this article (R Nait) has previously been accepted" - even if it's a tad incomplete. Narky Blert (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * SPI is moot, Sapna has been globally locked as an LTA (presumably Swarup Kumar Solanki). Noting for the record that I came across, also globally locked, probably also SKS. Nothing else to do here, closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:03, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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User:Kashish pall please check the same user in simple english wikipedia, user was missbehaving me in my simple wikipedia talkpage, here is the evidence here
 * Note : User:Kashish pall is block is English wikipedia as Sockpuppet of User:Swarup Kumar Solanki the sock master. Thanks <b style="color:Red">Cute</b><b style="color:Orange">Meow</b> ( talk ) 09:34, 12 November 2020 (UTC) <b style="color:Red">Cute</b><b style="color:Orange">Meow</b> ( talk ) 09:34, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Merged case to sockmaster's case location., SPI on enwiki can only deal with sockpuppetry on the English Wikipedia. If you want to report issues which are happening on simplewiki, I suggest looking at simple:Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Ok Thanks. Can you help me in that?? If you dont mind?? <b style="color:Red">Cute</b><b style="color:Orange">Meow</b> ( talk ) 11:27, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have reported these accounts and the other unlocked accounts in the archive to meta:Steward requests/Global for a lock. A lock will prevent them from editing on any wiki, so will deal with the issues at simplewiki (see ). I see that you have filed a case on simplewiki. The case should be placed at the top of the section, which I have corrected for you. Apart from that I can't see any issues with how you filed the case. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:38, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. <b style="color:Red">Cute</b><b style="color:Orange">Meow</b> ( talk ) 11:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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Recreated Draft:R Nait, and added material promoting Amit Bhadana to Mobile Premier League. Both R Nait and Bhadana have been the focus of much activity by previous SKS socks. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 19:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocking /24 for 2 weeks. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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created Draft:Sandeep in an attempt to circumvent the salting of Sandeep Maheshwari and Draft:Sandeep Maheshwari which have been created or edited by Solanki's previous socks (see User talk:Kashish pall and Articles for deletion/Sandeep Maheshwari. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 19:59, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There's very little history available for this case, but what there is says ❌, but might be a better way to describe it.   -- RoySmith (talk) 20:06, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * - For training. Jack Frost (talk) 10:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I've tempundeleted Draft:Sandeep Maheshwari, Sandeep Maheshwari, and Draft:Sandeep Maheshwari for review. Whoever closes this SPI, please re-delete them. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the temporary undeletion. I’m not seeing enough to call a sock however their editing in relation to EVidyalam makes their adamant denial of any COI entirely unbelievable (noting that they subsequently added and removed a COI declaration on their userpage). Overall, I think there's more than enough evidence of covert advertising and promotional editing to say that they are not contributing usefully to the process of building an encyclopaedia (see their edits regarding EVidyalam & Sandeep Maheshwari, and their user talkpage more generally). Therefore,  - Please block  indefinitely for promotional editing; should they wish to return to build an encyclopaedia then I'm sure a persuasive unblock request will be forthcoming. Please also re-delete Draft:Sandeep Draft:Sandeep Maheshwari, Sandeep Maheshwari, and Draft:Sandeep Maheshwari. --Jack Frost (talk) 19:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Jack Frost: I did the deletions. I haven't evaluated the block request because I don't have the time right now, but I'm also hesitant to do so because I think a request that is not related to sock- or meatpuppetry is not really within the scope of non-admin clerk duties. Others might disagree with that position, I just figured I'd note it. --Blablubbs (talk) 22:17, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Jack and I talked about this a bit off-wiki. I don't know that there's any right or wrong answer, but here's my take.  By the time somebody has dug through the case and gotten their head around what's going on, they know more the situation than anybody else.  It would be silly to throw that effort and knowledge away by saying, "Not SPI's problem, go get somebody else on another noticeboard to start from scratch figuring it out".  That's not to say I don't do that myself sometimes; I've written plenty of closes which are variations on "There may be X going on, but that's not an issue for SPI".
 * By the same token, when you as an admin blocks somebody, it's on you. I view non-admin clerk recommendations as somebody just connecting the dots for me so I don't have to do all the research from square one.  But every time I do one of those blocks, I certainly review the evidence to see that it supports the recommendation.
 * I totally understand where this is coming from. One of my first experiences as an admin starting to work at SPI was when some non-admin clerk (I've long since forgotten who) told me to block somebody.  I was like, WTF is this person telling me what I should do with my mop?
 * I hope that helps :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 23:38, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @RoySmith: I'm not a hardliner when it comes to doing only socking stuff at SPI – I occasionally block accounts that come up here for things that aren't socking-related too – but I do think there's some tension when requests like that come from non-admin clerks, especially trainees. We train specifically for handling sockpuppetry, and over time, we become confident in the ability of trainees to make those judgement calls. While I "re-clerk" every block request I come across (and badger my trainees to always make sure that there are enough diffs present that patrolling admins can easily do so), I think we generally defer to the judgement of non-admin clerks quite a bit. That's not a bad thing, but I do think we should be careful when expanding that "mini-sysop" hat beyond the scope of SPI. The guidance I give to my trainees is basically "if you know from the outset that a case outcome will primarily be determined by non-socking factors, don't clerk it, and if something comes up that goes beyond socking aspects, ask for a sysop to evaluate, as opposed to asking for a specific action". That's not to say that I think those recommendations would be wrong, just that I think limiting direct requests for specific admin actions to sockpuppetry-related things minimises the risk of something going wrong. But again, that's just the way I think about it. --Blablubbs (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Just noting that I agree with Blablubbs's take here and think his advice for his trainees is good to follow for all trainees. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 18:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's anything procedurally wrong with Jack Frost recommending a spam block in their clerk role—at the end of the day, all admin requests at SPI from non-admin clerks are mere recommendations, and administrators are always responsible for all of the blocks they make. With that being said, I am closing this case without action. Since Smartshri99 has not edited for more than a month, I see the matter as a bit too stale for administrative action (see WP:PREVENTATIVE). Additionally, it seems to me that not all of their contributions are promotional in nature, so I'm not sure whether an indefinite block would be justified at this point in time. The user's talk page is definitely a little concerning, and I can understand the motivation behind blocking. If the user continues to create spam, I would report them again, perhaps to WP:ANI (or WP:AIV if the case is obvious). Mz7 (talk) 08:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)