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14 August 2015

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User:BS4Free created page The Contender: The Game of Political Debate which has since been listed at AfD. Four minutes later, User:TVsEgon began expanding on the article and the two users alternate in what appears to me to be an attempt to look like "normal" editing by multiple community members. It seems odd to me that a brand new user and an old but inactive user would both start to work on the same article nearly simultaneously. User:Stillatwork comes in as their only contribution has been to participate in the AfD debate. -- Non-Dropframe   talk   18:34, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * User:BS4Free is my one and only account, I have had it for over a year I guess now. When I noticed this project The Contender: The Game of Political Debate I thought it should have a wiki, Having never commented or edited before, I started trying to workout how to make a page. I thought I did a good job and tried to keep it with a neutral point of view, and provide cites for my sources. I published it and continued to work on it as I noticed errors and added more content. Some viewers let me know that my images did not work, wiki said something about wrong user type, still don't know about that. I was trying to figure that out and offered if anyone knew how and could to please help and fix, the way community should work to edit a page. User:TVsEgon did just that as I continued to edit. I thought that was the idea of Wiki that many people can help and contribute and fix others errors to make the best content possible, in this case I asked for help with images. If that was wrong please let me know and I will make sure not to ask others for help. Please check ips or what ever it is that you have because That is not a second account, and is a different kind person. I am sorry to User:TVsEgon that my plea for help has brought this SPI to his account. I took me hours just trying to remember my username and password for User:BS4Free which I had made long ago, when I had decided to make The Contender: The Game of Political Debate. Less then a day in to helping the community I get a AfD and I am still working on the page trying to show that it should be allowed to stay, I have just figured out how to reply to the AfD. User:Stillatwork came to my defence earlier and I am glad but I had no idea who that person it but happy they have. I am just trying to give back to the community after receiving so much great content and information, and I have been welcomed with a AfD and now a SPI. I do want to thank User:Non-Dropframe for his support in the AfD, and for this SPI as I know it will prove that User:BS4Free has only one account is not Sockpuppeting (multiple account) and as far as I know the other two accounts are two other people.--BS4Free (talk) 20:30, 14 August 2015 (UTC) Edit (I make a lot of revisions see the history for The Contender: The Game of Political Debate. --BS4Free (talk) 20:59, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I've been using the User:TVsEgon account for about 7 years, and have intermittently edited articles as the whim has caught me. I don't have a lot of time and typically only edit things that are personally important to me as the need arises. On this occasion, while in an IRC channel for what is referred to as The Diamond Club, #chat at irc.t2t2.eu, I was chatting with User:BS4Free, who was having issues with images on the page for The Contender: The Game of Political Debate, and I told him I would help him out, as I've previously done some photo stuff on various wiki pages before, usually personal photos of mine used on various people's pages. Personally, I have no idea about the politics of editing or even the concept of one person using multiple accounts to edit an article. I don't know why anyone would even do that, so I don't know how to defend myself against that kind of accusation. I think I set the flag correctly to request a curequest on this, which I guess is maybe a way to pull IP history or something like that, I really don't know. If the IP address information becomes available, it will be made quite clear that I'm a guy in Arizona who did the edits in question from his home ISP Cox Communications, and this and a few edits to the image files I've uploaded through my work PC at American Express. I don't know where User:BS4Free is located, I've only chatted with them a couple times. I don't think I've ever even talked with User:Stillatwork and have no idea that the person even exists. I asked t2t2, the administrator of the Diamond Club IRC system about any records from the channel at that time, but his logs don't go that far back. I'll see if my IRC client has logging enabled, but as I recently reinstalled my OS, I don't know if that has been done already. Other than that, I really don't know what to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TVsEgon (talk • contribs) 21:40, 14 August 2015

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * - To compare BS4Free with Stillatwork based on the voting in the AfD .  Vanjagenije   (talk)  22:20, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Group 1 – The following accounts are between and less than :
 * is ❌ to Group 1.
 * I do not recommend a block for sock puppetry based on the technical data for any of the three accounts. The relationship between the two accounts in Group 1 is too tenuous.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:44, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing.
 * I do not recommend a block for sock puppetry based on the technical data for any of the three accounts. The relationship between the two accounts in Group 1 is too tenuous.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:44, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing.