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13 November 2015

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I got into a dispute with User:TehGuy on a group of related articles having to do with Polish diaspora outside of Poland (,  , a couple other related articles) - they appear to think that all Poles are and always have been Roman Catholic everywhere. This notion seems to be based on the fact that most of today's Poles actually living in Poland are Roman Catholic. What that has to do with Polish emigration is beyond me. Anyway, after burning up some reverts, User:TehGuy ceased editing (in Nov 10th), and instead the IPs listed above showed up to continue:, ,. In addition these two IPs started following me to articles which were NOT related to the original dispute:   in what is an obvious case of revenge-reverting (and just to be clear, I don't think that another IP involved in some of these reverts, 104.218.136.34, is the same person, unless this is a case of a shared account). The edit summaries use very much the same tone as User:TehGuy.

Further proof is that I left this message on TehGuy's page:. The 151.19 IP then left the exact same message with exactly the same words, changing only another user's name on my talk page. Now, I guess that it's possible that IP 151.19 just looked through my recent edits and found this particular one - on TehGuy's talkpage - and I guess it's possible that they fixated on that particular one for some particular reason, but the obvious explanation is that 151.19 is user TehGuy.

Ok, here's where it gets sort of weird. I wanted to know who TehGuy was so I checked their userpage. There was nothing there so I checked history and looked at the user talk page. First it seemed very strange how the user changed who they supposedly were multiple times on their user page. Compare with  (somehow they go from being Christian to Atheist, which I guess is possible but others things are changed as well). Ok is that it? No. In this version TehGuy claims to be a user "Krakerz". Going by the user's talk page this is a reference to User:Ya Boi Krakerz. Who is that account? Well, it's an account which got blocked for being a Grawp sleeper account (here is the user's other blocked account ). And frankly the nature of the edits by TehGuy and the IPs does sound like Grawp. At the very least the style and maturity level's the same.

The puzzling thing about the situation described above is "why would someone claim to be another account when they are in a dispute with them", as can be seen, again here? Either it's some kind of taunting. it's somebody just fucking around and creating confusion by talking to themselves or its a shared account. And indeed we have had groups of users who have emulated and pretended to be Grawp before.  Volunteer Marek  15:39, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Can someone please get on this? This user - and this is User:TehGuy - has now followed me to yet another article, Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, where they are restoring WP:HOAX material simply because I am one of the users to have removed it. Dealing with crap is getting really old, really fast.  Volunteer Marek  08:45, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Can someone please do something about this? The user and his sockpuppets have now taken to stalking my edits with harassing edit summaries on other articles on Wikipedia. I've filed this more than a week ago and in the meantime I've had to put up with this nonsense and it's only gotten worse over time.  Volunteer Marek  18:33, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why so many people zero in on you, Marek? Yes, yes, I know, they are all jerks, they are jealous of how smart you are, blah, blah, blah, but don't you think your behaviour and extreme snottiness might have something to do with it? Like, when they made fun of you in grammar school... Why do you think so many did that to you? How about you take a break from wikipedia? Cheers, --151.43.112.17 (talk) 18:47, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * And that statement pretty much evidences that you are not a new user, that you are here with the purpose of harassment rather than contributing to the encyclopedia, that you are familiar (although mistaken) with my edits and that we've dealt with each other before. So who's the sock master here (TehGuy seems like another throw away account)?  Volunteer Marek   19:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I am sorry, but it is not so. I have seen quite a few people get into it with you and I have no idea who they are. Anyway, it is not about who is who, it is about Wikipedia, plus I cannot talk for the others involved in this dispute, I can only talk for myself: I am not a sock puppet, just a drive by editor. I revert your edits only when they are incorrect, otherwise I leave them alone. Have you not noticed that when your edits are on the level, I let them be? Cheers, --151.43.112.17 (talk) 19:24, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Riiiiiggggghhhhhttttt, that must be why you're reverting regular clean up edits of mine on topics which neither you nor any of your other accounts have ever edited or shown interest in, with idiotic sophomoric edit summaries like "Stalking/Sexual harassment/Extreme sexism" or "Is that whambulance here, yet???" .   Volunteer Marek   19:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You do know the story about the pot and the kettle, right? ;-) You poor little chap, nothing about what oyou do is "regular"... :-D --151.43.112.17 (talk) 20:10, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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Whilst user Marek is undoubtedly a prolific editor, his rude behaviour and edit warring do not benefit Wikipedia. Is it maybe time to grant Marek a much deserved time away from wikipedia? --109.69.249.37 (talk) 08:51, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Too much swearing, too much anger, do you need a time-out, Marek? Do you need to turn the computer off and go get some fresh air, Marek? --Remote Helper (talk) 14:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Throw this brand new account into the sockpuppet list.  Volunteer Marek   14:31, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * That is ridiculous, this is my account: I have created an account but I am still the same user as 109.69.249.37. Can you please start behaving like an adult, Marek? --Remote Helper (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I've declined the CU request. We almost never publicly disclose the IP(s) of a named account.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please, compare two named accounts.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The following accounts are ✅, blocked and tagged:
 * is probably ❌, possibly as they are hiding their true location. Remote Helper should be warned about editing without logging in. Otherwise, I recommend no action against the user.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * All done. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * is probably ❌, possibly as they are hiding their true location. Remote Helper should be warned about editing without logging in. Otherwise, I recommend no action against the user.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * All done. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)