Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ThatIPGuy/Archive

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User talk:ThatIPGuy had brought up an old issue that was dropped months ago on the Talk:Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019 film) article. The issue was to add the alternative title Godzilla II: King of the Monsters in the lead. The matter never reached a consensus and was dropped. The alternate title is already covered in the Release section of the article, so it's not like it's being ignored. Today, ThatIPGuy wished to restore it and even deliberately manipulated support to have consensus be in his favor, example here. I suspect ThatIPGuy created sock puppet accounts to further manipulate consensus in his favor, example here and here. The sock puppet accounts made edits identical to ThatIPGuy, just look at the was the word "support" is capitalized and in bold on each user's edit. They also have made no contributions to any other pages other than the Godzilla talk page and to voice support to ThatIPGuy's argument. Hasell94's contributions can be found here and KingZerox22's contributions can be found here. I tried being reasonable and the user has pulled sock puppets in turn. Armegon (talk) 19:48, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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 * These are obvious socks created to influence the perceived consensus. the lot. ST47 (talk) 20:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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Every single one of their edits restores edits by other socks that were reverted or continues to support the arguments made on talk pages that the previous socks did. See:  136.181.195.25 (talk) 13:41, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I also suspect that User:Rebirth3k is a sock puppet for ThatIPGuy. A day after ThatIPGuy was blocked indefinitely, User:Rebirth3k contributed to the Godzilla talk page out of the blue with no prior history to contributing to that page and even added the same supportive argument that ThatIPGuy tried to push. Both of their writing styles and points of argument are identical, check here and here. Armegon (talk) 16:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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I outright deny these accusations and believe they are in bad faith. Rebirth3k (talk) 18:05, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I have no prior knowledge of the above sockpuppet case, my interactions with the pages was purely out of benefiting said pages with knowledge I saw suitable. User:136.181.195.25 has previously had occurrences (see Talk page) of contributing nonconstructive edits to pages. I had simply noticed an unwarranted reversal of cover art on the Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled page and wished to update it. If anything I believe an apology from User: 136.181.195.25 is at least warranted for this accusation, in addition to the continuous sabotaging of other people's work. Rebirth3k (talk) 18:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I am merely beginning to edit pages that have some interest to me, I am starting to become involved in many film and gaming related Wikipages. As for the Godzilla vote, being from a foreign country outside of the United States, I wished to simply have my voice heard, as the movie is of great interest to myself, and many people outside of the U.S. Rebirth3k (talk) 18:25, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I mean no ill-harm if I have created conflict or any confusion with the above case, and I apologise sincerely if I have happened to do so. I hope that this can be resolved in a manner that helps all parties involved. Rebirth3k (talk) 18:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * - With four accounts in three days, this is probably worth a check for sleepers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Some of the technical data changed slightly for this account, but nothing that would stop me from saying that it's ✅. Also, this is just an educated guess, but Commons:User:Rebirth3kk on Commons is probably him, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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New account whose first action is to restore edits made by a previous sock. (See: ) 136.181.195.25 (talk) 13:08, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Add 184.75.214.163 to the list. After four years of inactivity, they restored deleted edits by previous accounts and attempting to have me banned for repeatedly calling out and reverting past socks. Even if they ARE a "friend" of the other user, that still falls under WP:MEAT. -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 16:28, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, to briefly defend my position I was told by my colleague that User IP 136.181.195.25 had been meticulously bullying, stalking and harassing them. I don't use Wikipedia often and am merely helping a friend, in addition I have not been made aware of any rules and guidelines. I genuinely do not know about these sockpuppet investigations, and users have failed to inform me on them. All I have been made aware of is that User IP 136.181.195.25 has been cyber-bullying and harassing a colleague of mine, who has a genuine interest in helping develop Wikipedia, and is profusely sorry for any issues caused. User IP 136.181.195.25 has however been officially reported for their bullying, and I wish to make the admins aware of this users constant stream of unconstructive edits that have seemingly gone unnoticed. Evidence exists on their talk page. I hope this information helps. 184.75.214.163 (talk) 16:37, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * All of the above accounts were definitively proven by Wikipedia's moderation team to be sockpuppets of ThatIPGuy, used to influence consensus and evade another accounts ban, none of which are allowed. Reporting these violation is not "stalking" or "harassment", it is following the rules. And per WP:EVASION: "Anyone is free to revert any edits made in violation of a block, without giving any further reason and without regard to the three-revert rule." As all of the above accounts were proven to be socks of ThatIPGuy, it was within my right to revert their changes. Also, per WP:EVASION and WP:MEAT, "Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a blocked editor (sometimes called proxy editing or "proxying") unless they can show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits. New accounts that engage in the same behavior as a banned editor or blocked account in the same context, and that appear to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, are subject to the remedies applied to the editor whose behavior they are imitating." "[...]recruiting new editors to influence decisions on Wikipedia is prohibited." If you ARE a "colleague" who was sent by the previous sockmaster to restore their edits and come after me, that means you are willingly in direct violation of these policies. Just because you don't like me pointing this out does not mean ThatIPGuy did not break the rules and (as the moderation team decided) I was wrong for calling these violations to their attention. -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Obviously the same person. .  184.75.214.163 blocked as a proxy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:35, 2 May 2019 (UTC)