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User:TheGracefuSlick and I differ on the question of whether individual terror attacks should have articles. TheGracefulSlick nominated 2016 stabbing of Brussels police for deletion. The AfD has had a moderate number of participants, including these two SPAs. The editing record of  63.160.158.184 consists of 4 edits to rock and roll music articles, all made in 2015, plus this AfD iVote. Rock and roll music is TheGracefulSlick's regular editing area. 173.62.245.68 is a new account with only 3 edits, all on this article. E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Another somewhat suspect editor has now weighed in. User:Bebfire, a sort of Lazarus editor who has made only a couple of hundred edits over the course of 7 years. Almost all appear to be in TheGracefulSlick's usual editing territory of 20th century popular music. ( Editor interaction here:. )   Bebfire appears to have made no previous edits at an AfD.  And the edit itself reiterates TheGracefulSlick's emphasis on NOTNEWS, and "has not shown any notable impacts."  Slight grammatical oddities of this sort are  hallmark of TheGracefulSlick's comments in this and other AFDs.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:54, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * Do I receive a courtesy warning or is that not the case in these circumstances? I do not edit logged out and honestly just want that AfD over with as soon as possible because I can do without the bickering. And wouldn't there need to be stronger behavioral evidence: The second IP I somewhat understand but the first you cannot pin on me simply because it voted at that AfD. I disagree with you but I respect your ability to have opinions. I don't know why you felt this was neccessary.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to point out the second IP wrote edit summaries. Only in the last few months have I started to include edit summaries. Check my editing percentages and you'll see.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 12:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, the first IP is strikingly similar to an IP chain used by CrazyAces: see here. He is well known to be stalking me before and after his block around Wikipedia, including AfDs. I do not recognize the second IP however.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 12:19, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain how accurate the locations of those IPs are. Also, even with GracefulSlick's block record, I thought that further claims of sockpuppetry are premature. For the IP 173, this says it came from Ashburn, Virginia. However, that one says it came from Quakertown, Pennsylvania. For the IP 63, this one says it came from Reston, Virginia. However, that one says it came from Valley View, Texas (yes, Texas!). While the 173 one is newer, the 63 one first edited pages in 2015. The SPI report (frivolous or not) is a result of the current (or local) violent events drama(h) all over Wikipedia. If you wonder why, read this discussion and more at WT:NOT. I would hope that the current violent events hoopla would settle down, but I suspect it can escalate further. BTW, I was accused of sockpuppetry, but that got debunked. End of story. --George Ho (talk) 18:45, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Just for notification, the AfD is closed as "keep", though the rationale indicates concerns from both sides. --George Ho (talk) 05:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * * is there anything I can do to help myself out? I believe the findings of George instill enough doubt and there literally is almost no behavior evidence to work off of but I do not want to find myself blocked one day because of a disagreement at a heated ANI.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Can any administrator close this? Marvellous Spider-Man  03:46, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No, they may not. In fact, given that this was placed on hold by a checkuser,, no clerk will close it either. We now presume that the CUs are either investigating or discussing further but it is beyond our purview in that circumstance.

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You are incorrectly interpreting the wmflabs tool. The two Virginia addresses belong to the ISPs, not the IPs. I'd stick to whatismyipaddress.com or www.db-ip.com. Based on those results (Pennsylvania and Texas), it's unlikely GracefulSlick is using both IPs, but that doesn't mean she isn't using one or the other.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:54, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * --running CU doesn't seem to be necessary here; the AfD closed days ago (as keep--that is, if there were shenanigans they didn't help). Drmies (talk) 02:01, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * , is there anything you advise we do here? Thanks, GABgab 22:00, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No, but I will advise to refrain from pointing fingers at CrazyAces when we all know it's not CrazyAces. Closing. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 22:24, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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Redditaddict69 began editing in February 2017, but I only noticed them recently. Redditaddict69 aroused suspicion both because of a highly unusual unusual home page self-describing as a high school student, and because of their ability to quickly recall, locate and cite all of our numerous and arcane policies, unusual in genuinely new editors. I nevertheless assumed good faith and spend some time, both on discussion page and on this editors talk page, explaining how policies are implemented. I had, however, looked at their edit record and noticed a pattern long exhibited by TheGracefulSlick, which was the tendency to participate in AfD discussions on pop music and on political topics of the sort I regularly participate in. Both TheGracefulSlick and Redditaddict69 are supporters of progressive/leftist political ideas. Both followed me to AfD pages, although until today I would not have called the behavior of Redditaddict69 towards me as trolling. In fact, because Redditaddict69 aroused suspicion, I followed Redditaddict69 to some AfD discussions, and, once there, participated. Today, however, Redditaddict69 began to write such bizarre comments at an AfD they had nominated (I was arguing keep: Articles for deletion/Kathleen Sullivan Alioto,) that I suspected that he was deliberately trying to make me loose my cool. I was forcefully reminded of the way TheGracefulSlick several times provoked me into intemperate responses at an AfD discussion, then proposed that I ought to be blocked. So I looked again at Redditaddict69's edit history, and, then at our interactions. And then went to look at TheGracefulSlick's recent record and noticed that TheGracefulSlick was blocked just before I began seeing Redditaddict69 constantly. E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

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Insufficient evidence. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:53, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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This obscure article were created by TGS recently.After the article was tagged for notability the new user make extensive changes with perfect wiki markup  and add  puffery to the article similar to TGS original POV. --Shrike (talk) 13:48, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Figsandpecans is very . is ✅ to TheGracefulSlick. Blocked and tagged.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Based on the information available to us I don't feel comfortable blocking the newer account at this time. Re-open if more evidence arises. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 22:36, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

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One user is indefinitely banned. Very similar editing patterns on the same topics. Some edits are only hours apart. When TheGracefulSlick was blocked in Aug 2018 Aaronw1109 started editing at high numbers. Most edits are small for TheGracefulSlick was Minor edits	294 · (0.8%) Small edits (<20 bytes)*	2,729 · (54.6%) Large edits (>1000 bytes)*	317 · (6.3%) while Aaron1109 was Minor edits	788 · (15.6%)  Small edits (<20 bytes)*	2,363 · (47.3%)  Large edits (>1000 bytes)*	222 · (4.4%). BlackAmerican (talk) 02:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * You're going to need much stronger evidence for us to take this seriously. The editor interaction is incredibly small considering thousands of edits have been made among the three accounts. No diffs provided either. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 03:06, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Understood. Please withdraw this. BlackAmerican (talk) 11:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)