Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheMasterMind321/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
This user has created at least one other "new" account for an unknown reason (it is clearly not a WP:CLEANSTART as their first edit on was directly related to edits on  - that is, edits to Talk:Twitter (, and they have revealed their new account's username on their old account's talk page ). This new account was created after making some questionable edits. I'm also wondering if it's a case of WP:NOTHERE as a majority of their edits on both accounts have needed to be reverted due to not understanding policy or willfully ignoring it.

has also indicated the possible presence of another account by this user, but later rescinded the accusation due to a lack of evidence. Therefore, I am also requesting CU to find any additional accounts this user might operate that have not been discovered already. GSK (talk • edits) 14:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I've noticed that two users (Thegreat6336836853 and TheMasterMind321, who have similar edit histories) were responsible for multiple failed submissions for a XFL–USFL merger page (1, 2, 3, 4). Thegreat6336836853 then created a topic on Talk:Twitter that supported the idea of moving the page to X (formerly known as Twitter), an idea that was originally proposed by the other account, within a short time-frame. The topic was then immediately supported by TheMasterMind321 within a minute of its creation. Following heavy opposition, the account that didn't create the topic attempted to remove the entire topic created by the other account from the talk page. TheMasterMind321 then announced that they will no longer be using the account and will be using NY8642 instead (1, 2). NY8642 then created a support message as a reply to TheMasterMind321's existing support message for where the Twitter page should be moved, essentially voting three times if you're the same person that TheMasterMind321 claims to be. Additionally, TheMasterMind321 was warned multiple times about a large number of distruptive edits on their talk page and was previously blocked for one week. 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓐𝓾𝓭𝓲𝓽𝓸𝓻 14:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * ??? What is going on. I just created this account at 8:00 EDT. To fix some articles I noticed.(I ain’t exposing my IP) (1 WTC). Anyway can you explain to me? NY8642 (talk) 14:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I would argue that this edit by TheMasterMind321 now definitively qualifies this as sockpuppeteering. GSK (talk • edits) 14:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok uhm tell me what’s going on. I’m prepping for a game on Tv. NY8642 (talk) 14:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok but who tf is mastermind321? NY8642 (talk) 14:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's you. You know that every edit on Wikipedia is permanently logged, right? GSK (talk • edits) 14:28, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don’t know about Wikipedia I just read articles, I don’t know how tf stuff works. How does he know I just created this damn account 2 hours ago. NY8642 (talk) 14:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you WP:CLEANSTART, it's better not to resume your old behavior. Try contributing to a different Wikimedia project before going back here. Read the policy carefully. Ahri.boy (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm concerned about the possibility of the user being a minor and whether it may be best not to engage them for their protection. 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓐𝓾𝓭𝓲𝓽𝓸𝓻 14:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Well if the user is minor I agree. BUT I DONT KNOW IF ITS A MINOR. NY8642 (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Good point. It is becoming increasingly obvious this may be the case. GSK (talk • edits) 14:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Well if he said “he ain’t using the account.” Can he just delete the account like. Don’t mention a completely separate user (aka me?) NY8642 (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Accounts cannot be deleted. They can request vanishing their username. Ahri.boy (talk) 14:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * wait what, oh ok. NY8642 (talk) 14:42, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait so the sockpuppet here is: The Plantiff (you guys) is trying to say TheMasterMind321 & thegreat1727whatever & me are related correct? And the Defendant (me) is like: wtf is going on. NY8642 (talk) 14:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello? Answer me. NY8642 (talk) 14:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait so your saying my account said yes to MasterMind32whatever? NY8642 (talk) 14:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Accounts related or not, referring to other editors as "whatever" is clearly not being respectful. GSK (talk • edits) 14:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * LISTEN IM IN ALOT OF STRESS rn and I’m just trying to figure out what MasterMind321 I think. And thegreatsomethinglistenidk. are doing right now. NY8642 (talk) 14:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you're a minor, please consider reading Guidance for younger editors. I understand that this may feel like a distressing situation to be in but I would advise taking a break and not seeing this as reflective of who you are as a real person in the real world. It's not the end of the world, everything is okay. Consider talking with a parent, guardian or other supportive person if needed. 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓐𝓾𝓭𝓲𝓽𝓸𝓻 14:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Anyway I’ll be back in 5 minutes I’m gonna play some games now. NY8642 (talk) 14:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Thanks for reporting. Posts, style and interaction timeline leave little doubt. In any case, even without considering obvious sockpuppetry, they are WP:NOTHERE: the vast majority of their edit had to be reverted among edit warring and a block. — kashmīrī  TALK  14:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Blocked and tagged. Leaving the CU request in case someone wants to look for more. Bbb23 (talk) 15:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ to each other. Could be a school connection so it may be WP:MEAT. Either way it's blockable:
 * Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Retagged already blocked accounts. the newly found account. Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Account appears to be created solely to weigh in on the ongoing Twitter → X renaming discussion. Some of this account's edits are suspect, particularly these: implying they have participated in the discussion previously and implying they are aware of other accounts incorrectly moving pages. Given that one of the sockpuppeteer's previous accounts 'has' attempted to move the exact page mentioned as well as a few others, this account's actions leave little doubt in my mind that they are connected to this sockpuppeteer. GSK (talk • edits) 12:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Misterunknown24 (1) has edited a same article as TheMasterMind321(1, 2) after taking part in the same discussions regarding the Twitter page move request. The replies were a disagreement to a potential sixth account, Editior23, which stopped being active after another user accused it of being a sockpuppet. The disagreement could have been made to make it seem as though they are separate accounts as both accounts have similar but rare notices on their talk pages (1, 2). Considering the edits, mutual interest in sports (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) and style of English, it is possible that all six accounts may belong to the same sockpuppeteer. 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓐𝓾𝓭𝓲𝓽𝓸𝓻 22:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅. Girth Summit  (blether)  12:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Account follows the same pattern as established by other socks, being created solely to weigh in on the ongoing Twitter → X renaming discussion. This edit is suspicious to me in that it was established so recently after another suspected sock's comment. Admittedly, I am less sure about this account given it only has three edits, but this user does have a documented history of attempting to sway discussion in their favor. Requesting CU to confirm my suspicions. GSK (talk • edits) 12:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Misterunknown24 (1) has edited a same article as TheMasterMind321(1, 2) after taking part in the same discussions regarding the Twitter page move request. The replies were a disagreement to a potential sixth account, Editior23, which stopped being active after another user accused it of being a sockpuppet. The disagreement could have been made to make it seem as though they are separate accounts as both accounts have similar but rare notices on their talk pages (1, 2). Considering the edits, mutual interest in sports (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) and style of English, it is possible that all six accounts may belong to the same sockpuppeteer. 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓐𝓾𝓭𝓲𝓽𝓸𝓻 22:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Further evidence in favor of being a sock. These are behaviors that  (and related socks) also exhibited on numerous occasions. GSK (talk • edits) 22:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)