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11 January 2013

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TheVirginiaHistorian has been editing United States since July, 2012 and Buzity, who has been active since 10 November 2012, began editing the article 4 January 2013. Both editors have a similar view, that Puerto Rico and other overseas territories are part of the U.S. In both cases they post long multi-paragraph arguments referring to federal statutes and cases. For example, following his first posting, Butizy made a long posting 5:43, 9 January 2013. It is similar to The Virginia Historian's edit 18:42, 23 December 2012.  These are just two examples but a reading of the talk page (Talk:United States) shows the similarity. Buzity's early editing history shows a familiarity with Wikipedia, such as adding templates, and he appears to have briefly edited as IP24.54.198.59 before registering. TFD (talk) 18:18, 11 January 2013 (UTC) TFD (talk) 18:18, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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But why would you register a sockpuppet 7 months after you register your main account?Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere. (talk) 20:06, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

I am not a sockpuppet of anybody! The accusation on this page is "bad faith" related to the user TFD trying to impose his personal opinion over the reliable sources provided on arguments presented on the United States Talk page. Wikipedia is not place for personal opinions. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; it is a place of reliable sources. Sometimes when the people not have reliable sources to prove their personal opinion recurred to personals attacks. --Buzity (talk) 22:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikichecker shows orthogonal times for editing (when Buzity edits are the hours in which TVH has not edited) -- which means the two accounts on time bases alone are exceedingly unlikely to be the same person. Unless the editor does not sleep. The Intersect tool shows an overlap on one page and only one page: Talk:United States. While TFD disagrees with each, that is not a basis for seeking salmon via SPI. His track record stands at 18% for proper accusations about socks over the past few years. Collect (talk) 00:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)  Note: The two do not overlap  at all, at United States as claimed above. Nor does either seem to be presenting a "fringe view" about the connection of Puerto Rico to the United States. Collect (talk) 01:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * "Fringe view"? An United States District Court for the District of Puerto Rico decision? I include 5 reliable sources, it is not a fringe view!
 * United States District Court for the District of Puerto Rico decision - Consejo de Salud Playa de Ponce v. Secretary of Health of Puerto Rico
 * THE INSULAR CASES: THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A REGIME OF POLITICAL APARTHEID Juan R. Torruella
 * The Insular Cases: A Comparative Historical Study of Puerto Rico, Hawaiʻi, and the Philippines, Gustavo A. Gelpí. Gustavo Gelpí
 * The Insular Cases: A Comparative Historical Study of Puerto Rico and Others Overseas U.S. Territories, Gustavo A. Gelpí. Gustavo Gelpí
 * Memorandum on the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico - President Bush

--Buzity (talk) 05:10, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * Looking solely at behavior, I see tremendous differences. That they share the same opinion isn't convincing, as many people share the same perspective on political topics.  Closing for lack of linking evidence. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 00:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)