Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/The Devil's Advocate/Archive

08 January 2016

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Quite obvious case of block evasion by an experienced sockmaster who doesn't care too much about losing one or the other account. From his (often arrogant) writing style and diligent knowledge of Wikipedia standards and procedures, the user appears to be much more experienced than these accounts imply. I'm therefore opening this case so further – less obvious, but still sourced – suspected sockpuppets can be added and subsequently checked by a checkuser. PanchoS (talk) 01:49, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) User:Do you like apples created at 05:53h on 1 January 2016, just two hours after User:The Devil's Advocate was indefinitely banned, with the first two edits (1, 2) being a revert on User talk:The Devil's Advocate.
 * 2) User:EoT State created at 06:37h on 7 January 2016, just four hours after User:Do you like apples was blocked the second time, seamlessly continuing that user's destructive work on the Anarcho-capitalism article.

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' I thought myself that Do you like apples might be a sock of The Devil's Advocate, but Do you like apples seems to be primarily preoccupied with Anarcho-capitalism, an article that The Devil's Advocate has apparently never edited. I'm not saying PanchoS's suggestion is false, just that I'm not necessarily convinced. Aside from the issue of whether apples is a sock of The Devil's Advocate, there is the matter of whether apples and EoT State are the same user - that does seem quite likely, regardless of whether either account is associated with TDA. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 02:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This user is harassing me to respond here. These other people are not me. There is nothing more to say. Somebody please tell this person to stop harassing me, making accusations and assuming bad faith. It's clear he is doing this so he does not have to discuss the content of the article. EoT State (talk) 05:05, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not harassing you. There is a suspicion that you have used multiple accounts. It may or may not be correct, but it is reasonable under the circumstances, and there is no reason other editors should simply accept "There is nothing more to say" as the last word on the issue. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 05:26, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * There is nothing more for me to say. You harassing me to respond here is pointless. I don't understand what you expected or wanted me to say. I can't exactly provide evidence of my not being two other people I've never heard of. EoT State (talk) 06:14, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You might, for all that I or other editors know, have been able to suggest some plausible reason why you are not the same user as Do you like apples. It was quite reasonable to ask whether you could suggest any such reason. Whoever closes this SPI will have the final say on which accounts are related to which. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 06:35, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * All of the edits by apples seem to have been hidden suddenly. I'm confused. What has just happened? FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:37, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If Do you like apples is not the same user as EoT State, why is that account now indefinitely blocked? FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The evidence around The Devil's Advocate is highly circumstantial at best and I think a check would be a fishing expedition. I do think it would be within reason to conduct a CU between Do you like apples and EoT State based upon the continued edit war at Anarcho-capitalism. Mkdw talk 07:41, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * . I'll compare the two alleged puppets. I couldn't check TDA even if I wanted to as it's .--Bbb23 (talk) 14:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you like apples and EoT State are somewhere between ❌ and . the contributions by Do you like apples are no longer "hidden".--Bbb23 (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I forgot (it's been a long day). is ✅ to . I've tagged the account accordingly.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:33, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Judging from their contributions Do you like apples and EoT State are obviously the same user (or one of them is a meatpuppet). Thus, I have blocked  EoT State. Whether those accounts are related to The Devil's Advocate I do not have enough information to say. Alex Bakharev (talk) 03:47, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:24, 9 January 2016 (UTC)