Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tiramisoo/Archive

18 February 2012

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Note above listing is only the most recently blocked socks. and I have been working on blocking Tiramisoo socks for a long time, mostly by using the duck test. We have been aware of him since 2009: 1st ANI report, 2nd ANI report, 3rd ANI report. At that time CheckUser results showed that =  =

User has a habit of creating articles on neologisms, creating bad categories (also here), and editing articles about Cascadia, the Pacific Northwest, decades (2010s, etc.), music of decades, and generational articles (Generation Y, etc.). He has generally been uncommunicative and/or doesn't quite get it.

OregonD00d's talk page shows a variety of the sorts of problems he creates. Mostly the problem is his habit of adding unsourced material, often in promotion of the concept of Cascadia or his ideas about music or generational differences, or adding information to geographic articles giving undue weight to regions or areas he would like to promote. It seems fairly innocuous, but cleaning up after him is time consuming, especially cleaning up after the bad cats and taking articles on neologisms to AfD. Although his editing patterns are so obvious that it is easier to catch his block evasion and clean up after him, I'd like to find and block any sleeper socks so I can spend time on other things. If this is considered a fishing expedition please advise if there is another way to handle this. Thank you. Valfontis (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking! Valfontis (talk) 17:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * - All these socks are blocked, but I think a sweep for sleepers and confirmation would be useful. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 06:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The named accounts are all the same, but there are no sleepers I saw. TN X Man  16:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Tags updated. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:37, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

25 February 2012

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Can I please get a checkuser on this account? It is new account jumping right into Tiramisoo's favorite topic Cascadia (independence movement), and adding large swaths of information using correct wikimarkup (unusual for a new user), creating fairly useless redirects, adding unneeded cats, etc. Username might be a clue as well. There are not many edits yet, and this account sets off my duckdar (I've successfully ID'd several socks without CU help), but let me know if you need diffs. Thanks. Valfontis (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm terribly sorry for the inconvenience--it's very easy for me to see the pattern. And I thought perhaps you would look at the previous SPI and Aliveandkickin's contribs. My sincere apologies. Previously I just blocked them without this formality. and I have been working on blocking Tiramisoo socks for a long time, mostly by using the duck test. We have been aware of him since 2009: 1st ANI report, 2nd ANI report, 3rd ANI report. At that time CheckUser results showed that  =  =


 * User has a habit of creating articles on neologisms, creating bad categories (also here), and editing articles about Cascadia, the Pacific Northwest, decades (2010s, etc.), music of decades, and generational articles (Generation Y, etc.). He has generally been uncommunicative and/or doesn't quite get it.


 * OregonD00d's talk page shows a variety of the sorts of problems he creates. Mostly the problem is his habit of adding unsourced material, often in promotion of the concept of Cascadia or his ideas about music or generational differences, or adding information to geographic articles giving undue weight to regions or areas he would like to promote. It seems fairly innocuous, but cleaning up after him is time consuming, especially cleaning up after the bad cats and taking articles on neologisms to AfD.


 * The last SPI comfirmed, , and


 * Aliveandkickin's entire contribs:


 * First edit an outlier, one day after sockpuppet was blocked--one edit then waits four days to edit again (trying to get autoconfirmed?--though doesn't have 10 edits)
 * Second edit ever, bad addition of cats (History of PNW covers these)
 * Having to correct name cat of that has been changed since Tiramisoo started socking
 * Interest in the regions of Cascadia, adding a large amount of properly marked-up information, most of it unsourced, includes mention of Independence, Oregon, the twin city of his hometown, Monmouth
 * More unsourced info on languages (note the entire section was removed by another editor for not being under the scope of the article)
 * More unsourced info on regional languages, one of Tiramisoo's favorite subjects
 * Creation of double redirect
 * Unsourced edit about Chinook Jargon, one of Tiramisoo and his socks' favorite topics


 * Abootmoose contribs:


 * Language section that Aliveandkickin' later edited added to Cascadia article
 * Adding plug for the one individual promoting a Cascadian language (that happens to be himself)
 * Not evidence for the investigation, but inserts mention of himself here


 * Ipawn contribs:


 * Interest in 2010s like Tiramisoo
 * Creating bad cat (not everything with the word "Cascadia" in it is related to the independence movement
 * Interest in Cascadia (independence movement)
 * Edit creating redirect from non-existent Cascadian language, one of Tiramisoo's pet ideas
 * Inserting references to Cascadia (independence movement) where they don't necessarily belong


 * Mikealki and Cascadiamove


 * Possibly a pair of separate socks. First and only edits to Cascadia article


 * Mikealki bizarre edit about "Representative Parlimentary Monarch"
 * Cascadiamove same thing


 * I've also uncovered another possible sock whose only contributions were to create and edit the article about Mimzy and to complain uncivilly about its deletion. This has taken me nearly two hours to put together. If you need more diffs, I'll withdraw my request. The idea is to keep Tiramisoo from wasting our time. Thank you very much. Valfontis (talk) 17:01, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Please check for sleepers. I've found two suspected ones so far, there are likely others. Valfontis (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Yup, diffs please. If you are the most familiar with what's going on then you shouldn't leave it up to those least familiar to find out. WilliamH (talk) 13:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The following is ✅ as being the same as blocked sock :


 * The following is :


 * The following are :


 * No comment with regards to the IPs. Tiptoety  talk 05:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Aliveandkickin was already blocked, and I don't see much more reason to block the unlikely account. Closing. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

15 November 2015

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I've blocked several of Tiramisoo's socks without investigation, per WP:DUCK. I'd like to request an investigation and CU at this time just to be sure, as they are not as prolific as they used to be and I've not been editing as much and the edits are less obvious.

Overlaps in behavior between Thevideodrome and Tiramisoo include an interest in "decades" related topics and editing articles about individual years, an interest in Oregon-related topics, including this odd bit of vandalism, which after several weeks of live-and-let-live on my part towards this suspected sock, made me decide to dig deeper and report them. Other points of intersection include creating articles on neologisms and individual given names, an interest in linguistics, which overlaps with a predilection for creating questionable categories such as Category:Political linguistics, making unsourced edits about climate,, and other unsourced assertions, an interest in synthpop including the band Owl City, and interest in forests, and Cascadia.

Though the user's edits seem to have improved over the years since 2009, and thus are not particularly abusive, but the vandalism is worrisome, as are the reasonable-sounding unsourced edits that may take more time to investigate and clean up. Being an unrepentant sockpuppeteer is the biggest problem. If this user was mentored they might eventually become a decent contributor, if they were willing to engage with the community. (There are NO user talkpage edits). The user's talk page shows the variety of usual warnings given to Tiramisoo socks, including deleted articles and categories such as Megabite Pizza (a Canadian pizza chain--the user also has an interest in Canada) and Category:Transhumanist films. One article Commercialization of the Internet survived AfD but is poorly sourced.

In the past the user has had sleeper accounts lined up to continue socking, so a check for sleepers would be welcome. Investigation archive is here, and here are the lists of suspected and confirmed sockpuppets. Let me know if you need more Tiramisoo or their sock's diffs side by side with the ones provided. Valfontis (talk) 23:47, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I blocked on April 7, 2013.  was created on April 18, 2013. Valfontis (talk) 23:54, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The above editor interaction tools seem to be broken here is the overlap between Fernwood1990 and Thevideodrome (20 articles) and here is the overlap between Thevideodrome and Tiramisoo  (18 articles). Valfontis (talk) 00:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Topics in common with all three accounts are 1980s, Millennials, and Cascadia (independence movement). Valfontis (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Likely stale accounts all edited the Cascadia article: Valfontis (talk) 01:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cascadianmycelium
 * User:Donniebraun

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 * Can you please list some non-stale socks other than Thevideodrome? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:49, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Fernwood1990? Because as far as I can tell, Thevideodrome isn't stale. Valfontis (talk) 00:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I know Thevideodrome isn't stale. I want at least one other puppet besides Thevideodrome that is not stale.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:14, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Of course you do, but the wording confused me, sorry! The other possible socks (noted above) are at least as old as Fernwood and not active. I looked all through the Cascadia history (that's how I usually find them) and I can't find any others. Valfontis (talk) 01:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I rarely do a check of just one account with no comparison data point except in very special circumstances, but I'll run a check anyway. I won't do a deep probe, though, as I can't justify the time, but perhaps we'll be "lucky".--Bbb23 (talk) 01:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. After my investigation, I probably should have just blocked because of the quacking. Let's see what happens. Valfontis (talk) 01:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't find any obvious sleepers. However, I probed a little deeper than I said I would. Can you compare the behavior of to Thevideodrome. I'd focus on the deleted article created by Konlyn and Commercialization of the Internet, the article created by Thevideodrome. Konlyn doesn't have many edits. While we're in the midst of this technical search, you can block Thevideodrome anytime you like. It won't affect what I'm doing one bit.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:09, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that many of Thevideodrome's contributions revolve around this subject. There's now little doubt in my mind about the behavioral issue, but I'll wait for your opinion.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't really have enough to go on with Konlyn--too few edits and it's not my topic area. I'll defer to your judgement. The name doesn't seem to fit the pattern either. Valfontis (talk) 02:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm comfortable with the behavioral connection. and  are ✅. I've CU-blocked both and tagged them as suspected puppets. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note for future reference, I should have just looked here. Valfontis (talk) 04:57, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Also this. Valfontis (talk) 05:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC)