Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tishoteles/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Shared history is an unusual combination of biography and company articles: Joan Cwaik, Paraguayan Football Association, Mirgor, Natalia Denegri, Robert Harrison and Jorge Horacio Brito. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC) talk:Girth Summit| (blether) ]] 13:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, thank you for looking into this. I also can't see any obvious WP:BADSOCK behaviours, but it also doesn't seem to meet WP:SOCKLEGIT. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 23:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice, I will give that a try. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 02:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello . Neither of the accounts have responded to my requests on their talk pages: . Could you please let me know what can be done in this situation? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:55, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * -, I have had a quick look at the contribs, and I agree that they look similar: there's the article overlap that you observed, and there's a number of other behavioural similarities that make me suspicious. What I'm not seeing on a quick inspection is any obvious WP:BADSOCK editing. Is there any evidence that they are using two accounts to deceive or evade scrutiny - like contributing to the same discussions, or !voting twice in AfDs and the like? Obviously, best practice would be to declare a connection between alt accounts, especially if you're editing the same articles; however, I would want to know whether we're looking at intentional deception before using checkuser here.  Girth Summit [[User
 * When accounts fall into the grey zone between the best practice of SOCKLEGIT and the abuse of BADSOCK, I usually ask myself a couple of questions. (a) Could this be a good faith user who simply doesn't know about our sockpuppetry policies? (b) Is there any disruption that I need to prevent? For context, there are many people who, for whatever reason, create different accounts for different devices. They aren't intending to do wrong, they just find that convenient. From an experienced user's perspective that looks suspicious, but it is often an innocent mistake. These accounts have been around a while, but they don't edit often - I could easily believe that they don't know about sockpuppetry being a thing. In a case where I don't think there is any intention to deceive or distort our processes, I'd probably start with a friendly message asking whether the two accounts are connected, and pointing then towards our guidance on how to declare alt accounts, rather than an intrusive use of the CU tool and a block. Does that make sense? Girth Summit  (blether)  23:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Neither account has edited since you left those messages; they seem to edit very sporadically, and perhaps only log in every now and again. If you haven't observed any apparently devious behaviour, I'd probably just leave this where it is for now, and look at it again if and when they start causing problems. Closing for the time being. Girth Summit  (blether)  09:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, will do. Thank you for your help with this. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:25, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Hello, could this please be re-examined, with User:Ocatarinetabelachitchix added to the list? It is based on the combination of Paraguayan Football Association (specifically the governing body, not Football in Paraguay in general) and the company Mirgor.

Also, in the meantime, Tishotels has denied using any other accounts (link), but as noted by Girth Summit last time, there are various similarities between the accounts. Thank you. MrsSnoozyTurtle 06:37, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * All three accounts ✅. Mkdw  talk 05:45, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Closing. Spicy (talk) 17:06, 29 November 2022 (UTC)