Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Top Gun/Archive

Report date April 5 2009, 23:45 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ActionRequest (talk)

Preface:

User:Guyver85, User:89.216.235.26, User:89.216.229.112, and User:87.116.171.227 have previously been offically confirmed to be sockpuppets of User:Top Gun.

User:BobaFett85 is the latest sockpuppet reincarnation of User:Top Gun, a community-banned user.

Evidence 1:

User:BobaFett85 boasted: "If anything I have learned in my two and a half years of working on Wikipedia how to deal with POV pushers, and that is you. I have had edit wars with at least a dozen POV pushers who tried to push their own agendas, I won every last one of those debates."

Since the sockpuppet account User:BobaFett85 was only created 5 months ago, that statement alone establishes disruptive editing across multiple user accounts over the past two and a half years.

Evidence 2:

User:BobaFett85 has twice admitted to using numerous user names. On Febuary 13, 2009, he announced" "''I was using another username two years ago. I change my username every few months because I get bored with them. I forgot which username I used back then.''"

Evidence 3:

On March 18, 2008, he boasted that "Hehehe, listen buddy don't try being all high and mighty on me, I have been editing under the username BobaFett85 since late December, BUT have been editing here on Wikipedia under numereous other usernames since July 2006 ... I change my Username every six months or so because I get bored with the old one."

Evidence 4:

This shows the exact chronological match between the unconfirmed sockpuppet's admission above and the primary account, a confirmed sockpuppeteer:

User:BobaFett85's own boast/admission of editing under numerous other usernames since July 2006 is accurate as he began editing as User:Top Gun on July 24, 2006 and did so until August 15, 2008. He was blocked 6 times as User:Top Gun in January 2007, February 2007, November 2007, and August 2008.

Evidence 5:

Unconfirmed sockpuppet account User:87.116.170.203 signed his own message here as User:Top Gun.

Evidence 6:

The following shows the same pattern of editing interchangeably with an IP and the same pattern of not being able to bother to sign in:


 * Confirmed sockpuppet User:Guyver85 admitted to editing interchangeably as User:89.216.235.26: "Yes I am 89.216.235.26. I occasionaly make an edit without signing in because I forget sometime so my edit is registered as being made by 89.216.235.26. ... if you have to know user Top Gun is a friend of mine, and after he was blocked indefinetly he asked me to continue his editing of the lists of Iraqi insurgent and security forces deaths".


 * Unconfirmed sockpuppet User:BobaFett85 admitted to editing interchangeably as User:89.216.234.131: "I did that edit anonymously only because I didn't want to bother signing in, but you know what I realy don't care, do what you want, I am starting a whole new article ...".

Evidence 7:

After he was was blocked for the 4th time as confirmed sockpuppet User:89.216.235.26 on October 22, 2008, he again simply ignored the Wikipedia sanction and was right back 2 days later under a different IP, resuming his disruptive editing as unconfirmed sockpuppet User:89.216.236.45 from October 24, 2008 to December 22, 2008.

Evidence 8:


 * As that User:89.216.236.45, BobaFett85 began a revert and edit war in mid-December, 2008 that has been extremely disruptive across a large number of pages over the past four months.


 * 1 day after his last edit as User:89.216.246.45 on December 22, 2008, Top Gun created his latest named-account sockpuppet, User:BobaFett85, and continued disruptively editing as User:BobaFet85 from 01:50 December 23, 2008 to present.

Evidence 9:

The following shows that the unconfirmed sockpuppet User:BobaFett85 is continuing to tendentiously argue the very same points as he did with his previous accounts:

While User:BobaFett85's disruptive editing to make a point on coalition casualties in the war in Afghanistan appears to have lasted four months now, he has in fact actually been tendentiously and disruptively editing to make the very same point for over two and a half years now:

As User:89.216.229.112 (officially confirmed to be User:Top Gun), he wrote two and half years ago on September 5, 2006:

"Your removed 61 soldiers from the count of 333 who have died in operation Enduring freedom puting the number 272. OK I will agree not including the 14 soldiers killed in operation OEF Horn of Africa,14 soldiers killed in operation OEF Philippines and 5 soldiers killed in operation OEF Guantanamo bay. But that leaves 28 more soldiers."

As User:Top Gun in July 2007, BobaFett85 wrote: "OK listen up the number given for the US military casualties here is not right. ... icasualties.org states that 543 soldiers have been killed in Enduring Freedom up to date. The operation can be bropken down into four different operations. OEF - Afghanistan, OEF - Phillipines, OEF - Horn of Africa and OEF - Guantanamo bay. The Phillipines part of the operation has had 15 fatalities, the Africa part 17 and Guantanamo bay 5. So 543 - (15+17+5) = 516. Also the icasualties.org number doesn't include the civilian employee of the DoD that was killed by hostile fire. ..."

As his sockpuppet User:BobaFett85 on March 28, 2009, Top Gun writes: "Operation Enduring Freedom consists of five specific sub-operations, those are: OEF-Afghanistan, OEF-Phillipines, OEF-Horn of Africa, OEF-Trans Sahara and OEF-Guantanamo bay. Of all confirmed OEF casualties, 41 have been found on the icasualties.org's list to have died in Africa, Cuba or the Phillipines so logic dictates that all of the rest died in support of OEF-Afghanistan."

As his sockpuppet User:BobaFett85 again: "Currently operation Enduring Freedom has five different operations: OEF-Afghanistan, OEF-Horn of Africa, OEF-Trans Sahara, OEF-Philipines and OEF-Guantanamo bay. Icasualties.org has a filter instaled to filter out soldeirs killed by country in which they were killed. I checked and 41 soldiers have been listed as killed in African or Southeast Asia countries or Cuba. Thus those 41 died in OEF-Horn of Africa, OEF-Trans Sahara, OEF-Philipines and OEF-Guantanamo bay. That would mean the rest died in OEF-Afghanistan, there is not any other current OEF operation to atribute the rest of the deaths."

Evidence 10:

The primary account User:Top Gun stated in this diatribe that he is located in Serbia. The IP address that sockpuppet User:BobaFett85 admitted to editing interchangeably with, User:89.216.234.131, is located in Serbia.

ActionRequest (talk) 01:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by ActionRequest (talk) 23:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Endorsed - X clamation point  02:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Asking us to read 2000+ words for a simple CheckUser request is excessive. This is not an arbitration, and it is no relevance to me that he is uncivil and son on, nor do I need extraneous rehashing of previous accounts. Please just show in a few words why the account in question is likely to be a banned user, and no more. Dominic·t 10:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * BobaFett85 blocked. -- Kanonkas : Talk  12:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

✅ Currently available technical and behavioral evidence confirms that User:BobaFett85 has used some of the IPs listed above as confirmed socks of Top Gun. The range is used by many other non-vandals, so a hard rangeblock may not be appropriate. -- Avi (talk) 05:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC) -- Kanonkas : Talk  12:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * Archiving. Foxy Loxy  Pounce! 12:58, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Report date April 7 2009, 21:26 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ActionRequests (talk)

Confirmed sockpuppet User:BobaFett85/User:89.216.234.131 of User:Top Gun was blocked indefinitely at 12:54, April 7. Suspected sockpuppet 89.216.232.221 resumed editing the same pages 2 hours later.

ActionRequests (talk) 21:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

89.216.232.221 definetly has the same editing pattern as User:BobaFett85, etc. Nick-D (talk) 07:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users

Requested by ActionRequests (talk) 21:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

That IP is part of the same range, we don't need CU to tell us that. Mayalld (talk) 08:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

IP blocked for one month.  Syn  ergy 12:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions

Report date April 8 2009, 15:15 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets
 * Additional suspects
 * List of User:Top Gun's sockpuppets that have already been identified:
 * Additional suspects
 * List of User:Top Gun's sockpuppets that have already been identified:
 * List of User:Top Gun's sockpuppets that have already been identified:
 * List of User:Top Gun's sockpuppets that have already been identified:
 * List of User:Top Gun's sockpuppets that have already been identified:
 * List of User:Top Gun's sockpuppets that have already been identified:


 * User:Megatron85
 * User:Guyver85
 * User:BobaFett85
 * User:Terminator-800
 * User:87.116.170.203 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:87.116.171.227 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:89.216.235.26 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:89.216.236.45 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:89.216.232.75 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:89.216.229.112 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:89.216.234.131 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers
 * User:89.216.234.221 Serbia and Montenegro - IP range for cable modem customers


 * Evidence submitted by ActionRequests (talk)

Serial sockpuppeteer User:Top Gun's last confirmed sockpuppet User:89.216.232.221 was blocked at 12:30 April 8. Latest suspected sockpuppet User:Terminator-800 was created 3 hours later and resumed editing the same pages.

The pages edited by the suspected sockpuppets: Pages edited by his most recently confirmed and blocked sockpuppets:

This page shows suspected sockpuppet User:Terminator-800 editing the very same page that he had previously edited as recently confirmed and blocked sockpuppets User:BobaFett85 and User:89.216.232.221. As suspected sockpuppet User:89.216.232.75, he also commented an edit with "your comment to revert just because an editor who advocated it was blocked is unjust".

He further surreptitiously changed a signature he had previously made as User:Terminator-800 into one as suspected sockpuppet User:89.216.232.75 here.

Perhaps an IP range (89.216.*.*) block could be set?

ActionRequests (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet account User:Terminator-800 was blocked at 02:44, April 9. Suspected sockpuppet account User:89.216.233.92 from the same IP range in Serbia started editing 16 minutes later, editing the same pages or category of pages as always.

ActionRequests (talk) 06:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet account User:89.216.233.92 was blocked at 05:20, April 9..

Two hours later, suspected sockpuppet User:89.216.234.29 was editing usual pages.. Less than an hour later, suspected sockpuppet User:Bupkus started editing usual pages and was blocked at 08:05.

Three hours after User:Bupkus was blocked, suspected sockpuppet User:Blanko24 was created and proceeded to edit pages that he has edited under several of his confirmed and blocked sockpuppets, eg..

An IP range block (89.216.*.*) may be warranted?

ActionRequests (talk) 16:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by ActionRequests (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * Please provide diffs to support your claims. Thank you, —  Jake   Wartenberg  19:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Given the similarity between the contributions of the IPs on the same range, the current accused sock and the previously blocked socks, a connection seems likely and a check to confirm and search for other accounts is endorsed. (Same pages, same issues, continuous editing). Avruch  T 21:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * cases merged. Mayalld (talk) 10:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

IP range 89.216.232.0/22 blocked (AO, ACB). Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 18:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * ✅ the following as Top Gun (based on geolocate of previous Top Gun IPs):


 * Blocked & tagged. Tiptoety  talk 18:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Report date April 15 2009, 21:46 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ActionRequests (talk)

User:Top Gun's previously-identified sockpuppets:

User:Megatron85, User:Guyver85, User:BobaFett85, User:Terminator-800, User:Blanko24, User:Bupkus, User:87.116.170.203, User:87.116.171.227, User:89.216.229.112, User:89.216.232.75, User:89.216.233.92, User:89.216.234.29, User:89.216.234.131, User:89.216.234.221, User:89.216.235.26, User:89.216.236.45

Community-banned User:Top Gun was last blocked a few days ago on April 9. He has returned just 3 days later on April 12, evading the ban yet again under a new set of IP addresses, editing the same sets of pages in the same manner as before 

Besides the obvious behavioral evidence, a quick technical check of these new IPs confirms the exact same domain, ISP, latitude/longitude, country, and area code as for all 10 of his previous IP accounts:


 * Latitude/longitude: 44.8333, 20.5
 * Country: Serbia and Montenegro
 * ISP: IP RANGE FOR CABLE MODEM CUSTOMERS
 * Domain: DYNAMIC.SBB.RS
 * IDD Code: 381

ActionRequests (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Added two more IP sockpuppets: User:188.2.194.124 and User:188.2.194.189.

ActionRequests (talk) 06:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Mayalld (talk) 12:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC) clearly quacking, but on a dynamic IP range. CU required to look for blockable ranges, and for Collateral Damage check. Mayalld (talk) 12:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * I am interested why the filer of this SPI has used two similarly named accounts while editing it?  MBisanz  talk 01:02, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Provided explanation on talk page ActionRequests (talk) 18:51, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Definitely the same editor; but he lives on a /18 that sees some anon contributions. A short softblock might ease the whack-a-mole without being too onerous.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 04:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I blocked the range 188.2.192.0/18 for a week anon only account creation disabled. Come back if more issues persist. Please archive ——  nix eagle email me 16:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Report date May 6 2009, 21:31 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

I am not sure how to go about doing this, I want to report as another suspected sock puppet of Bobafett85. Not sure where to place this. -Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 21:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by &mdash;Falastine fee Qalby(talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Whois data shows that the information for 188.2.195.153 matches the other two IPs that Top Gun has used before. Icestorm815 •  Talk  22:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions

Report date May 13 2009, 03:39 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ActionRequests

Top Gun's latest block evasion sockpuppet was blocked on May 6 22:21.

Simply ignoring the sanction as always, he was right back less than 24 hours later on May 7 with a new sockpuppet, User:89.216.236.112, editing the usual topics. 

An IP range block will likely be required.

ActionRequests (talk) 03:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions
 * IP hardblocked for one month. Tiptoety  talk 04:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Report date September 4 2009, 04:55 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Nick-D

appears, on the basis of their editing pattern, to be the latest attempt by to evade their permanent block (see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Top Gun for five confirmed accounts and some of the many IP aliases). Like the other socks, most of this editor's contributions have been creating and expanding huge lists of casualties in recent wars. This includes creating List of Central Intelligence Agency officers killed in the line of duty and Timeline of the Insurgency in the Philippines. These articles are very similar to other Top Gun projects such as United States Forces casualties in the war in Afghanistan (particularly its original version - note that the table formatting, style, etc, is identical to the CIA article) and List of Afghan security forces fatality reports in Afghanistan (note the near identical style to the Insurgency in the Philippines article, including the OR table of casualties at the start of the article). As another link, MindnightBomber is strongly supporting the retention of the long running Top Gun project List of insurgent fatality reports in Iraq in its AfD discussion, and 'researched' prior AfD discussions under different names: (I note that this article has been extensively edited by IPs in the ranges associated with Top Gun since their block). Given this editor's behavior is consistent with Top Gun's other attempts to evade their block and is seeking to defend articles created by Top Gun, I would respectfully like to ask for a check user investigation. Nick-D (talk) 04:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by Nick-D (talk) 04:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * NW ( Talk ) 15:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

and the socks listed in the category are all.

✅ =.

Based on behavior, and looking at the checkuser logs from April, when the last CU was run, it is very that those two accounts are related to. J.delanoy gabs adds 17:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Both accounts blocked and tagged. NW ( Talk ) 17:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Cs32en
The account has been registered on September 7, 2009, three days after  has been blocked indefinitely. LiquidOcelot24 is a sockpuppet of, and Top Gun was blocked indefinitely on August 12, 2008, with the rationale "lying about sources, in addition to a whole host of other sins".

Note: I have been blocked for edit warring with, and my block has just expired.

Among the 10 articles most edited by the respective accounts, seven are identical:
 * Dark Reign (comics)
 * World of Warcraft (comics)
 * The Transformers (IDW Publishing)
 * List of war films and TV specials
 * G.I. Joe (IDW Publishing)
 * Coalition casualties in Afghanistan
 * List of Afghan security forces fatality reports in Afghanistan

The accounts display very similar behaviour, with regard to editing patterns, content, and communication style. If more evidence is needed, I can supply additional evidence. Cs32en 02:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * As a first step, User:UrukHaiLoR should declare whether he had an account prior to the account he is currently using, and if yes, what the name of that account is or was. Cs32en  03:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Cs32en's accusations against me are based on his negative attituted towards me since I wanted to find a compromise solution to an edit war that he himself started over the article Camp Chapman attack, compromise was only found after the intervention of administrators. User Cs32en has been blocked for edit warring on numereous times. He has accused me of lying which can be seen to be false in the lenghty discussion I myself started at the administrator noticebord here. I clearly stated my intentions of the numereous compromises I proposed to Cs32en who he rejected with POV-pushing and was finaly blocked by administrators for edit warring and violation of the 3rr rule.

Furthermore I myself am aware of user Top Gun who user Nick-D pointed me to a few months ago and I myself have reverted Top Guns confirmed IP socks after identifing them, as seen here and here. In the article List of Afghan security forces fatality reports in Afghanistan, users Nick-D and EdJohnston identified the block evader Top Gun by his ip adress of 119.152.... and blocked the article so he can not edit it. After that I reverted his edits in all of the articles he vandalised. The articles Cs32en pointed you to Coalition casualties in Afghanistan and List of Afghan security forces fatality reports in Afghanistan, if you would check you would see that all of my edits are mostly reverting of the block evader TopGun's edits with only a few well sourced and reliable edits that are not OR which Top Gun is pushing. Furthermore a few months ago I was involved in a discussion over a deletion of an article that Top Gun created and I myself was among the first to uphold the deletion, but later changed to merge, not keep, after a solution was discussed between editors, it can be found here .UrukHaiLoR (talk) 03:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by other users
I'm sorry, but this sounds like Cs32en is trying to get the upper hand over UrukHaiLoR who has been attempting to discuss and resolve an editing conflict issue. See Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

I would suggest closing this down. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 03:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you Tbsdy.UrukHaiLoR (talk) 03:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

As an active admin within the Military History Wikiproject I've been heavily involved in shutting down Top Gun's many socks. I'm sorry to say this, but I have also been concerned for some time about the similarities between Top Gun's editing pattern and that of UrukHaiLoR. As noted by Cs32en in their post, there is a high degree of correlation between the editing patterns of Top Gun and their socks and UrukHaiLoR's. As such, I think that a checkuser should be run on UrukHaiLoR. While I believe that the IP editor 119.152.x may also be Top Gun based on their contributions, this is a quite different IP from what they've used previously and Top Gun has a history of simultaneously using several sock accounts and editing under IPs. From memory, Top Gun's socks have on several occasions reverted one another and voted to delete Top Gun articles, so the reversions made by UrukHaiLoR are not by themselves sufficient to establish that this is a different editor, especially given the close match between the editing patterns. Nick-D (talk) 03:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As an example, the argument to establish summary tables made by Top Gun sock in Articles for deletion/List of insurgent fatality reports in Iraq is not dissimilar to that made by UrukHaiLoR in Articles for deletion/List of insurgent fatality reports in Afghanistan (note also the similarity in editing patterns; both articles were started by Top Gun socks). Nick-D (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be unfortunate. However, I'm concerned that this was brought by an editor who was active engaged in edit warring with UrukHaiLoR, who looks to have been attempting to discuss the matter further. That is why I suggest that this be shut down, as it seems that one editor is trying to get the upper hand with another editor, in an underhand manner. Please note that Cs32en was blocked for 31 hours only recently in regards to this dispute. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 03:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I've just blocked UrukHaiLoR as a Top Gun sock per WP:DUCK. The similarities with Top Gun are compelling, particularly in regards to the article UrukHaiLoR recently started. I will explain my rationale on their talk page. Nick-D (talk) 04:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I disagree. I will take my comments to WP:AN/I. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 06:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * I will note that all other accounts related to this are . Additionally, if this is from a new IP, then I don't think CheckUser will be able to do much as far as establishing any connection with previous socks are concerned (from a technical point of view). –MuZemike 03:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



 * (Edits on 2010/01/13)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/12)
 * (Edits on 2009/06/27 and 2010/01/11)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/09)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/08)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/08)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/04)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/03)
 * (Edits on 2010/01/01)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/31)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/29)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/29)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/27)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/26)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/24)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/23)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/22 and 2009/12/23)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/21)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/21)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/20)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/19)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/16)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/16)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/15)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/07 and 2009/12/08)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/03)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/02)
 * (Edits on 2009/12/01 and 2009/12/02)

Evidence submitted by Cs32en

 * asks for help on behalf of, a sockpuppet of .  ("I want to update this article but i cant because edit button is removed.")


 * All the IPs in the 119.152.xxx.xxx range edit very similar combinations of articles, and geolocate to Islamabad, Pakistan.

As has mentioned below, the English language and spelling of some of the IPs above (some of these IPs have done few edits, consisting only of numbers) is somewhat weaker that that used by regular sockpuppet accounts of. I suspect that this may be due either to Top Gun simulating poorer English (a real possibility, given the extensive work he has spent on concealing his sockpuppets, like having them revert each others edits etc.), or that we are dealing with a tag team of users that are simultaneously using sock puppets. Both possibilities are not mutually exclusive. I suspect other accounts to be part of such a tag team, but I haven't found enough evidence yet. Cs32en 10:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

may actually have created with the aim of letting his socks appear to fight against this account, thus conferring to his socks the appearance of defending the project's integrity. Note that has edited the article , an unlikely edit for a true "Mujahid". While has not edited this particular page, this sockpuppet account of  has regularly edited articles on war games and comics. Cs32en 10:54, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * also left a comment on the talk page of, who was recently involved in an AN/I case that , a sockpuppet of , had filed. It would be a strange coincidence that the IP would would have chosen this user talk page if it would not be related to , especially as  did not comment on AN/I itself.  Cs32en  11:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC) This is not valid as evidence, because  had semi-protected the page.  Cs32en  13:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

After following the edits of the IP socks for a few days, I have come to the conclusion that, while the IPs are socks of, and Mujahid1947 has probably edited either via IP or with another account before registering the account Mujahid1947, these socks are not connected to. Cs32en  Talk to me  22:01, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users
Some of those IPs have been tagged as possible socks of, who was recently also indef blocked (see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mujahid1947). It's worth noting that the talk page posts from these IP ranges are normally written in much poorer English than those by Top Gun. Regardless, Mujahid1947's editing pattern is broadly similar to Top Gun's and they've also been blocked for a range of very good reasons so their IP socks warrant action. Nick-D (talk) 10:38, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In regards to Cs32en's post above, I should also add that the article contributions from these IP ranges are written in much better English than the talk page posts. Nick-D (talk) 10:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

You two are realy becoming paranoid aren't you. Neither 119... nor 116.. are me, 119... is from Pakistan, while I'm from Europe. But unlike that other innocent user that you blocked a few days ago Nick, 81... who was from Denmark, I will not ask you to not block 119... because he was a thorn in my belly too. Thus I am asking you to continue with his block. His edits, while in line with my system, were disorganised and he was constantly making copyies of the same incidents. So in that case I will say thanks Nick. Thumbs up. :)89.216.235.113 (talk) 03:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Cs32en
Cs32en  Talk to me  01:53, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Edits similar articles as Top Gun.
 * Same IP range as other IP socks of Top Gun.

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users

 * Yep, that's definetly Top Gun, and I've blocked them. Nick-D (talk) 07:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Cs32en
These IPs edit the same articles as, a sockpuppet of. Same IP range. There may be more IPs that TopGun has used in the last two months. See,.

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users

 * Message by Cs32en

Hi Spitfire! Thank you for the advice! I did not know about that tool. Cs32en  Talk to me  17:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, kind regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 17:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by  Cs32en   Talk to me  17:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

no need to use checkuser to identify other IPs, a soft block on would catch them all. If you want to look through the contribs from the range then you can use X!'s rangecontribs tool. Regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 17:28, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Range blocked for 3 months. Tim Song (talk) 01:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
 * Editor interaction utility


 * and, no need to mention that their usernames are very similar.


 * Big Duck evidence- TopGun is active in Pakistan articles. made 148 edits in the page War in North-West Pakistan.


 * Another big duck evidence Top Gun was blocked for Copy vios from 2007-2008 and TopGun's first edits are about copyright violations;


 * 1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2007_December_6/Articles


 * 2- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2007_December_6/Articles


 * created the article page First Battle of Swat related to TopGun's interests


 * Topgun was not very active before 2011, when was active with his IP socks.


 * He managed to change his editing style to avoid being blocked again.


 * It's possible that he had migrated to different country as the previous IPs are from Serbia. A few Pakistanis do live in Serbia : Overseas Pakistani.


 * TopGun's first name was User:Hassanhn5. In 2011, he changed to his original name X Swordmaster (talk) 03:29, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

TopGun got blocked many times in 2011-2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by X Swordmaster (talk • contribs) 03:36, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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X Swordmaster is a wikihounding SPA sock of, out for fishing as usual. I've filed an SPI on him. I WP:USURPed my current username, on becoming more active, to redact my old one (which I created 10 years ago) for privacy only. Most edits in the topic area mentioned are after the name change. I have no idea who Top Gun is. I do have a fairly good idea that CE is bent on harassing users who are keeping his socking in check as you can see from various SPIs filed against me by his IP socks in the link cited at the end by the CU. X Swordmaster deserves a WP:BOOMERANG block anyway. -- lTopGunl (talk) 18:14, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
I've declined the CU request as everything is .--Bbb23 (talk) 12:54, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * See Sockpuppet investigations/TopGun.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:15, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The filer has been blocked as a sock puppet of . I'm closing this with no action.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)