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New account William Knight88709 has been used mainly to try to edit war a very large block of non-neutral text added to the Immigration to Australia article by Torygreen84 in this edit (the relevant edits from William Knight88709 are (the 4th edit from this account, with an edit summary which indicates a previous involvement in the article and/or Wikipedia) and.

William Knight88709's other edits are mainly concerning conservative and christian political parties, which is also a topic frequently edited by Torygreen84 (for instance,, [an edit re-ordering a list of acronyms basically identical to this one by  William Knight88709], , and many more easily visible in Torygreen84's recent editing history). Notably, both accounts have added similar tables of electoral results for christian political parties (compare with ).

Given the similarities in editing topics and style, I think it's clear that this is the same person. While I think that the WP:DUCK connection is obvious, a checkuser would be appreciated to look for other socks, which tend to be prevalent in politically-motivated editing such as this. Nick-D (talk) 09:59, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * ✅ plus --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 03:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * - Please block the sock indef and the master for however long. Thanks, GABgab 04:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Master blocked 1 week Neil N  talk to me 04:57, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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Sro23 (talk) 00:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked and tagged per Sockpuppet investigations/Apollo The Logician. Sro23 (talk) 00:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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IP identified that they created the page Next Conservative Party (UK) leadership election on its Talk page here. The page was created by Torygreen84 here, who has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry and would therefore be evading their block. Ralbegen (talk) 17:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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This seems to be the same person (also part of the broader pattern at Sockpuppet investigations/Apollo The Logician/Archive, the overall sockmaster) Nick-D (talk) 22:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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Username self-identifies the user as having started Next Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, which is User:Torygreen84, who has been indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry and would therefore be evading their block. The sockpuppeteer did the same thing as an IP recently. Ralbegen (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Adding more detail: The username is "ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder", and the user has only contributed to the Talk page of Next Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, which was started by User:Torygreen84, who is blocked indefinitely for abusing multiple accounts and therefore abusing a block. An IP identifying as having started the page was blocked recently. Ralbegen (talk) 19:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

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They obviously wanted to be blocked to make some kind of point, so I've done the honours. Goodness knows what the point they think they've just made is. Nick-D (talk) 10:05, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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There is a long running discussion at Talk:Next_Conservative_Party_(UK)_leadership_election about whether or not to include a long list of candidates. The list was removed after some discussion in August, but then an IP editor, 109.158.228.2, argued for its inclusion.

IP editor then appeared to become ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder and continued along the same lines. ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder was then blocked as a sock. (Sorry, I couldn't work out who ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder is a sock of.)

With ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder blocked, 109.157.169.89 then continued the same argument.

Then Wasteman1000 appeared, like all of the above focused on this and related articles. After edit-warring, Wasteman1000 was indef blocked for that and being a sock: Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive380.

109.158.53.64 then continues the argument with this edit. I removed the text completely on the grounds that this was clearly the same indef blocked indivdiual.

A new editor has now appeared, John4v16, who has made 4 edits, two to the same Talk page and two to a related article. The first act of the new editor was to revert my removal of the previous comment in this edit. That is not something a new editor would have noticed or know to do, so WP:PREC. Looks like the same person again. Bondegezou (talk) 10:54, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder was blocked as a sockpuppet after I reported them here (as well as an IP editor earlier in the month). I reported them at Sockpuppet investigations/Torygreen84. Ralbegen (talk) 11:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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Please move case.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC) is ✅ to Wasteman1000. John4v16 is. They are likely to ConservativePartyLeadershipElectionPageFounder. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  18:57, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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GABgab 18:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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✅, in Sockpuppet investigations/Apollo The Logician. GABgab 18:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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As previously described at Sockpuppet_investigations/Torygreen84/Archive, there's been a long-running edit dispute at Next Conservative Party (UK) leadership election where the same individual under various guises has been pushing the same edit. So, for example, as Wasteman1000, we had this diff. That individual was blocked and peace returned. More recently, an IP editor, 109.156.134.35, returned pushing the same edit, e.g., ,. The article was then semi-protected and that stopped. Then up pops a new user Johnny Moore12 pushing the same thing:. Bondegezou (talk) 10:51, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment Just noting that User:Johnny_Moore12 made exactly ten edits over four days to get around the autoconfirmation bar to make edits to Next Conservative Party (UK) leadership election. Ralbegen (talk) 11:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a complete lie. I have changed the page because that’s what I think should be on the page. There is a consensus on talk page. Thank you. L — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny Moore12 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

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 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:05, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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As previously described at Sockpuppet_investigations/Torygreen84/Archive, there's been a long-running edit dispute at Next Conservative Party (UK) leadership election where the same individual under various guises has been pushing the same edit. So, for example, as Wasteman1000, we had this diff. That individual was blocked and peace returned. More recently, an IP editor, 109.156.134.35, returned pushing the same edit, e.g., ,. The article was then semi-protected and that stopped. Then up pops a new user Johnny Moore12 pushing the same thing:.

Johnny Moore12 was blocked and two days later MrsFowler12345 is created. MrsFowler12345 made eleven edits over a few days to get around the autoconfirmation bar and then... re-inserts the same basic material. Bondegezou (talk) 11:34, 11 May 2019 (UTC) Bondegezou (talk) 11:34, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * ST47 (talk) 16:26, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

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Accounts pushing the same lines as the banned sockpuppets, and positions that the user was pushing while they had access to Okeeffemarc's account (See ). The user has been pushing the same case for months through various sockpuppets, which you can see in the archive of investigations. When the protection level of the page they are interested in was raised to extended-confirmed, they used a long-term user's account (Okeeffemarc) until they were locked out and the disruptive behaviour from that account ended. Now, two days later, their arguments are perpetuated on the unprotected Talk page by a new single-purpose user (e.g. ) who is backed up by a new single-purpose IP editor, who even edits posts made as Looool12 (e.g. ). Ralbegen (talk) 07:25, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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I concur with 's analysis. Bondegezou (talk) 07:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * See also Special:Contributions/Docherty8. – Jonesey95 (talk) 09:01, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, compare to . Single-purpose account pushing the same thing. Ralbegen (talk) 09:49, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Both accounts . IP is stale. Closing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:09, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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See below. Bbb23 (talk) 13:32, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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is ✅, blocked and tagged. Please merge Sockpuppet investigations/MroWikipedian into this case and retag the two accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, both tagged as proven along with previously confirmed socks in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MroWikipedian:
 * Please adjust if necessary. Case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please adjust if necessary. Case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please adjust if necessary. Case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please adjust if necessary. Case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please adjust if necessary. Case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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Registered just after 's last CU sweep and overlaps pretty significantly GenerationCurrent2015 & Tree Evangelical10002 & Tree master julius. Praxidicae (talk) 11:59, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅ (to )., closing. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 20:06, 19 December 2019 (UTC)