Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tricdl27/Archive

18 February 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets


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Working in tandem with Lazlo1657 to save Tricdl's article Insulet Corporation from speedy deletion. Lazlo just finished creating Tricdl's userpage diff. Lazlo also vandalised user:Noq's userpage after Noq put Tricdl's article up for CSD: diff. It is a very ducky situation. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you HelloAnnyong . Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:41, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Reply to Sven: The sockmaster was not blocked per se but they recently posted an unblock request on their talk on behalf of IP 68.81.18.142 which they undid a minute later. I think HelloAnnyong blocked also the underlying IP of the sock and the autoblock does not allow the master to edit. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * This is either a definite sock puppetry or two users from the same company trying to promote the company, users are editing in the same articles, protecting each other. User page User:Tricdl27 was even created by Lazlo1657 GimliDotNet (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I too seem to hear something quacking. Lazlo is also likely to get blocked for vandalism soon. Peridon (talk) 21:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. The quacking is strong. Funny thing is both of them have vandalism counters on their userpage and have activated them. It seems they don't particularly like the sock tagging. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:14, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Per WP:DUCK I've blocked and tagged Lazlo1657. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:29, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Any action being taken on Tricdl27?  S ven M anguard   Wha?  16:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * First offense, and nothing too major. I'm going to let it go this time. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 21:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

02 April 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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Self-incriminating - AvidInsight, a new editor, has a peculiar request posted on his user and talk pages: "This is a WP:CLEANSTART account. I have had some trouble in the past and I am changing. Please do not block automaticly, as I am working on Wikiversity now, but I still come on here from time to time. PLEASE DO NOT BLOCK THIS IS A CLEANSTART ACCOUNT ." That prompted me to look further and I found that his talk page at Wikiversity acknowledges suckpuppetry, while his user page identifies him as "Sam Zakrzewski", who has identical bio to SamAerospace, another of Tricdl27's socks. Given recent activity by Tricdl27 and his socks, and his apparent inability to get the message that what he's doing is not permitted, Checkuser has been requested to identify any sleeper accounts so they can be gotten rid of too. As DreamFieldArts, Tricdl27 has denied any link to other socks, even when pressed, so he's not going to own up to any other accounts. AussieLegend (talk) 23:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Can't this user keep the volume of their quacking low? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:02, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for any confusion. I wont be editing for six months (except for puting in new mythbuster episodes), just I enjoyed editing so much. It's some what an addiction. I never want to leave, but I guess that I am being force to. :( Avid Insight  (Talk) 00:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding this edit, as a sockpuppet, you shouldn't be editing at all. You really don't seem to get this. You should get it though, especially since your requests to be unblocked have been denied seven times. --AussieLegend (talk) 17:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I can't believe he is saying that: I wont be editing for six months (except for puting in new mythbuster episodes). I have never seen a sock proposing their own ban and in the next sentence violating it. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I put that in there by accident, i didn't know it saved. It was an edit after the original post, but I thought that I shouldn't so I quit firefox, but I guess it posted it, sorry for any confusion again, my error. Avid Insight  (Talk) 18:21, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * An excuse for everything.... This is something that did not help you in your unblock requests. --AussieLegend (talk) 19:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This guy appears so eager and has so many cute excuses. Maybe we can offer him some kind of deal. Δρ.Κ. <sup style="position:relative">λόγος<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">πράξις 21:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * He's had 7 unblock requests denied. (See here and here) The last "deal" was to spend six months away from Wikipedia, which he agreed to do. He lasted 4 days before he started editing again. Since he announced yesterday that he was going to stay away for six months, he's made 14 edits, including the one in which he changed it to "(except for puting in new mythbuster episodes)". The only deal he deserves is the one that we give all sockpuppets. --AussieLegend (talk) 01:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah. I guess you are right. Although this guy appears eager to help, his attitude is slightly worrying. Δρ.Κ. <sup style="position:relative">λόγος<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">πράξις 01:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
No other accounts except AvidInsight found. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man 19:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged, we can end this now. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  12:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

01 January 2013

 * Suspected sockpuppets

(Was previously listed with this sock as master)


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Obtund edits in the exact same manner as DreamFieldArts and edits the same articles as well. Obtund started editing about a fortnight after DreamFieldArts was indefinitely blocked and I assume he hasn't disclosed his identity as he tries to get his original account unblocked under the Obtund user account. 1
 * Obtund edits the same Mythbuster article as DreamFieldArts. He's obviously interested in the series and follows it This reaffirms my previous claim
 * Participates in discussions in the same articles as his old account and with a similar writing style. (Unpunctuated and with a plethora of abbreviations) 1Same discussion thread too (note the careless ellipsis; there are many more examples of his style of writing but I want to be as diverse as possible here). The use of ellipsis is sort of this user's M.O. I can't exactly find the diff but two uses of ellipsis are visible on this page alone.
 * Again, he edits and participates in discussions in the same article as DreamFieldArts. Obtund. Dreamfieldarts.
 * Pursues the same old matters as DreamFieldArts. Tries to insert images into the OSX article but got banned before succeeding Attacks the user who disagreed with his alter ego
 * User posts a warning on my page and cited a discussion I had with dreamfieldarts and another user that ended more than half a year ago, on the iPhone 5 talk page. iphone 5 talk pageuser warning. Obtund was not at all involve in the discussion on the iPhone 5 article yet he decided to insert some commentary about how I was a habitual edit war-er and cited a minor altercation I had with him more than half a year ago.
 * Note the signature of most of DreamFieldArt's socks, most have fancy colours and styling, the signature of this sock is no different.
 * Note the GA "contributions" on his User page, how could he have possibly contributed to the iPad (3rd generation) article's GA status if it was passed and listed as a GA article before this user even started editing. Furthermore his edits barely contribute to the article as many of his edits are small tweaks rather than major alterations, many of which were reverted. Before the user cleared out his user page
 * Like all the other socks, this user places a large emphasis on the retired tag, I know this specific piece of evidence isn't close to substantial but it should be noted that for his other accounts, the user went out of his way to place retired tags on those userpages by editing as an IP.
 * Both users have doctorates in engineering, which is pretty exceptionally uncommon given the number of people who don't have doctorates in any field compared to those who do.

Links to Tricdl27 - Obtund created the same article that was speedily deleted after Tricdl27 first created it back in February 2012 or so. Speedy deletion notification Obtund creating the article

He has obviously tried to be discreet about making a new account and avoided making large controversial edits in articles that he previously edited under the DreamFieldArts account. Furthermore I'm not the first user who suspected Obtund of being another sockpuppet of DreamfFieldArts. 1 There are simply too many "coincidences" here to persuade me to give him the benefit of the doubt.

To sum up my evidence based on WP:DUCK. Obtund is editing the same articles, in the same manner and pursuing the same matters as DreamFieldArts. I assume circumventing edit blocks and attempting to convince users to unblock his original account is considered abusive.

YuMaNuMa Contrib 14:30, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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This is why I left Wikipedia for a few months (October-December), because of people like you accusing me of random garbage. This is really annoying and I officially and fully retire from Wikipedia and would like my rollback rights respectfully removed. Good day. <em style="font-family:Courier;color:green">Ob <em style="font-family:Courier;color:#009ACD">tund <em style="font-family:Courier">Talk 03:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This perfectly explains why you singled me out despite the battleground mentality that Cantaloupe has taken on in many of his discussion. He resolved that now and takes on a more moderate approach from the looks of it but it seems like you never learn from your lesson. Given the amount of evidence I've listed against you, I am beyond convinced that you are none other than DreamFieldArts himself. Retired? You shouldn't even be editing on Wikipedia, however since you decide to no longer edit, mind passing on the GA assessment for the iPhone 5 article to someone else? YuMaNuMa Contrib 04:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Kindly, and I am sorry that I forgot to warn Cantaloupe. <em style="font-family:Courier;color:green">Ob <em style="font-family:Courier;color:#009ACD">tund <em style="font-family:Courier">Talk 04:16, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a bit too late for that now especially after I punched a huge hole in your level 4 warning rationale. YuMaNuMa Contrib 04:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I've changed the master, as the previous master was actually a sock of the new master. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 19:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm torn, there is some interesting linkage and coincidences, but prefer another set of eyes to view this. I did remove rollbacker, per Obtund's request, with no prejudice to restore.  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 20:23, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've blocked Obtund as a contribs-confirmed sock. There are simply too many coincidences.  WP:CLEANSTART doesn't allow you to create a new account because your old one is blocked, and you need to instead consider WP:STANDARDOFFER, which means going 6 months without socking, then asking for an unblock using the master account, Tricdl27.  If unblocked, then switching accounts can be requested, or a rename can be considered.  As it is, there is ample behavioral evidence to suggest this is the same as the master. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 14:15, 12 January 2013 (UTC)