Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tylas/Archive

24 January 2012

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This is more a meat puppetry case than a sock puppetry case. Users Tylas and Tomcloyd are actively coordinating edits and comments on Dissociative identity disorder, basically supporting everything the other one says and does and trying to use the combined activity as an indicator of supposed consensus to make highly controversial changes. Tomcloyd presents himself as a counselor treating DID, and Tylas represents herself as someone with DID (multiple personalities). The user page for Tomcloyd has a link to his personal blog site, http://sleightmind.wordpress.com/ - and that page shows that the only people posting comments on that blog are the owner, Tom, and someone named Tylas who purports to have multiple personalities. In this edit Tylas admits it was her who posted there but asks if anyone who went to the blog after would be meat puppets, ignoring that this activity predates their activities on the article in question. These comments were posted on that blog at dates that predate Tomcloyd's edits to Dissociative identity disorder or its talk page. Tomcloyd''s first edits to the talk page were to overwhelmingly endorse everything Tylas had said, and then they started tag team edit wars on the article itself and now continue the same disruptive behavior on the talk page despite being warned. These two accounts, while I'm not claiming they are sockpuppets, are clearly coordinating extremely closely in typical meat puppet fashion. They are both based in Utah (As can be seen from their individual sites as also with some earlier edits. The template below asks for diffs, but there are so many that it'd be difficult and time consuming to provide links for them all. A quick scan of current comments on the talk page as well as edits to the article, especially from about Jan. 6 to Jan. 16, should be all that is needed to see exactly what I am talking about. (It may also be worth mentioning that this article has had a number of sock puppets in the past that were permanently blocked for trying to show false consensus and making edits similar to the ones these two current editors are making. See Sockpuppet investigations/ResearchEditor/Archive. I have no idea if these accounts are related to the old, banned one, but many of the comments and activities are extremely similar.) DreamGuy (talk) 03:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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HelloAnnyong, please see the email that I sent you. ~ty (talk) 16:04, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I cannot defend myself if I don't know about this and I just found this page 10 min. ago, as a result of the complainants mention of it on the DID talk page. Why was I not informed? This smacks of secret trials and the like. What happened to the notion of notification? As the investigation was closed without affirmation of the accusation, I'll make no further comment, other than to say that the accusation is a complete fabrication. We were not and do not coordinate our posts to anything on Wikipedia. Tom Cloyd (talk) 20:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I'm mildly hesitant to block here, as it really does just seem like meatpuppetry - or at least collusion in editing. If they're using each other to get around 3RR, you can send that to WP:3RR and note that meatpuppetry does allow the editors to count as one. I see the article has been protected for edit warring, though, so I'm not sure we want to go any further at this juncture. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 18:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)