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Both accounts created/edited articles on Umair Ahmad and Youth Group etc.. the editing pattern is similar. Saqib (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:01, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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User acc Aneeqarani3132 was created after the master account was blocked last month. Both accounts created BLP on a low profile individual Anjum Rehmani.. Saqib (talk) 16:45, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 07:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sock indeffed. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Resumption of same behavior as master. Recreated Youth Group Limited which the master also tried to create under various titles. All their other edits were to pages also edited by the master with obvious similarity see. The account was created some months after the master's block but remained largely dormant until now, so likely there are more. – Ammarpad (talk) 10:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

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 * Some other possible socks were listed here Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1003. But the data may be stale for now.-- 94rain  Talk 13:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

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✅ + . Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:23, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

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 * User:03wikicreator was blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of User:UA85. On 18 March 2019 this user created the article DJ Martin2Smoove which was later speedy deleted under criterion G5. The article contains, for example, the phrases "Martin is known for his mixed genre DJ sets, and is a recognised featured artist performing for Ministry of Sound." and "Martin’s first residency was recognized on student night, Milkshake, at the Ministry of Sound nightclub, a long-residing dance and house venue in London."
 * On 22 July 2019, User:PelicanBaySquad completed their edits on the newly created article Martin2Smoove. The article contains the phrases "He is known for his mixed genre DJ sets, and performs for the Ministry of Sound." and "Martin’s first residency was for recognised student night, Milkshake, at the Ministry of Sound nightclub, a long-residing dance and house venue in London." This user does appear to have an interest in music.
 * A 19 September 2017 draft, Draft:DJ Martin2Smoove, was created by User:Alicegriffinthewriter (a professional writer?). Quelle surprise: "Martin is known for his mixed genre DJ sets, and is a recognised featured artist performing for Ministry of Sound." and "Martin’s first residency was for recognised student night, Milkshake, at the Ministry of Sound nightclub, a long-residing dance and house venue in London." are both present! This was deleted in 6 October 2018 i.e. before the others were created.
 * The references in these drafts and articles are almost identical - for example, they all begin with the same Evening Standard reference.
 * (May not be involved, but alerted me to the potential problem) Revival938 showed up at WP:REFUND asking for a refund of one of the above. There only other substantive edits are on Draft:Vungle a draft first created by a COI editor. The topic - an in-app video ads company from California - is a world away from a London DJ. This may be just coincidence of course.
 * Of course, it may be that the deleted text from the oldest draft is on a deletion wiki somewhere, and somebody liberated it. However, when it happens more than once and one of the editors is a known puppet it starts to look suspicious.
 * Counter evidence: Whilst prima facie it is easy to tie the above editors together, I have not been able to tie them to UA85 and the other socks. There are no edits involving India, for example. kingboyk (talk) 00:13, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Revival938 states they have no conflict of interest to declare. --kingboyk (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Addendum following Check User: Behavioural similarities between the two "Revival"s suggest they are the same editor: 1, 2, 3, 4 --kingboyk (talk) 10:01, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Revival938 requested a refund on Draft:Desiree Gruber, which was created by a user banned as a sockpuppet. --kingboyk (talk) 17:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

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Revival938 recreated Draft:Big Kidd. It was earlier created by under BIG KIDD and last created by  that was deleted yesterday. GSS (talk |c|em ) 12:00, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Also involved in that draft is, who has declared that they have been paid to edit it. Minor edits by which I would normally be inclined to overlook, but they have edited no other article. --kingboyk (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

CU needed for MT320, Muktadirtex and possibly Hakimj --kingboyk (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * is
 * is apparently ❌
 * is to other UA85 socks and a very  match to  (already blocked); there is also a geolocation match to the similarly-named  (also blocked). Yunshui 雲 水  07:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Please don't use the "checkuser needed" template at SPI. Two of the three accounts you mention are . Therefore, a check is pointless.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:55, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Revival938 has been blocked as a sock of Revival932 (quite possibly a sock of UA85 as well). Alicegriffinthewriter appears to have ceased editing altogether, so I have taken no action against that account. PelicanBaySquad... well, that's a tough call. At this point, I'm going to AGF and assume that they inadvertently copied text from an existing draft, and that they are simply interested in music, though the slew of minor edits could be seen as an attempt to gain autoconfirmed status so as to create the article directly in mainspace... not saying it was, but it's not impossible. Since I've failed to find, at this point, any off-wiki evidence that Martin 2Smoove has been soliciting for paid editors, I'm going to give PelicanBaySquad the benefit of the doubt.
 * Of the other potential socks surrounding the Bigg Kidd article, as Bbb23 points out, Muktadirtex and Hakimj are kinda stale. MT320's version of the article was very different to Revival's and didn't show as much understanding of wikiformatting; I'm inclined to assume that account is an independent freelancer rather than a part of this sockfarm.
 * That about wraps this up; the next passing clerk should feel free to close. Yunshui 雲 水 17:16, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Closed per Yunshui. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:31, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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Yet another recreation of Draft:Xavi Simons previously created by a sock of UA85. GSS (talk |c|em ) 11:54, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * - Please indef the sock. Cabayi (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * you can't see it but the deleted version of the draft doesn't match the current version at all, it's about an entirely different person, although it's mostly a mangled snippet of an infobox. Not sure what's going on here, but . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:09, 1 October 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:24, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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Firstly, User:UA85 and User:Umair Ahmad Butt both have the same name "Umair Ahmad" and the same birth date 16 April 1997 and location Lahore, Pakistan on their user page. User:Umair Ahmad Butt also has the link https://umairahmad.me/ on their user page, along with User:Aarnabutt. On this self disclosed link on their user page he says that "He founded Youth Group Limited". Youth Group Limited is a page created and edited by previous UA85 socks. http://youthgroupltd.com/ is linked from the user page of User:Arslanahsan123. User:Arslanahsan123 also double !voted keep along with User:Umair Ahmad Butt in Articles for deletion/Z LaLa (2nd nomination). User:UA862412 in their second edit asked on User talk:Umair Ahmad Butt if using the website https://umairahmad.me/ was an appropriate reference, it is very unlikely that an unrelated user would somehow find this person's user page and ask this question in there second edit. I also have other evidence of sockpuppetry I can share via email. Dylsss(talk contribs) 00:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ahmad Nagar Chattha is also edited by User:Umair Ahmad Butt and many other previous UA85 socks including User:UA85, User:MairaButtPak, User:PakButt1000 and User:UABBC. Dylsss(talk contribs) 23:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've also added User:BB0336 as most of their edits are inserting links related to "Umair Ahmad" or "Youth group limited", and has edited $avvy along with User:Umair Ahmad Butt and User:UA862412. Dylsss(talk contribs) 23:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. MER-C 09:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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These are all UPE accounts, spamming the same url (agpestcontrol.net), with somewhat ironic userpages using TWA, but following NSAMTR pattern (ie. I'm x from y, I like z) TAXIDICAE💰  14:12, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * I think it's worth comparing this group to the non-stale accounts at Sockpuppet investigations/UA85/Archive and (if related) potentially running a sleeper check on those as well. Blablubbs&#124;talk 14:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Butthunter and Jones Eagles pending checkuser. Behavior is a little different, but fairly confident they're related to UA85 (and regardless, they're spammers) - Jones Eagles, for example, also likes making Pakistani geostubs, a behavior shared with Knowndolly and  GeneralNotability (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * All ✅ to the socks in Sockpuppet investigations/UA85/Archive. The IP range is absurdly busy.  I'd be surprised if someone could find any sleepers in this mess.  Merge if desired, I suppose. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:13, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merged, tagged, closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:44, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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Uploaded loads of files of "Umair Ahmad" and edited Z LaLa, the same article that previous socks double !voted to keep in its AfD. Dylsss(talk contribs) 14:15, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * - editing interest overlap is suspicious. CU was able to confirm some of the more recent socks in the archive to each other, might be useful here. Girth Summit  (blether)  14:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ and I'll let a clerk or admin deal with any blocks as needed. Like NRP notes in the archives, the range is really busy and I'll add they have an extremely common device. I'd just block on behaviour going forward. Don't really think its worth the time to sort through all the UA matches... TonyBallioni (talk) 18:05, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  05:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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BCE created Draft:Mohammad Jasem Alwazzan whose logs indicate it has been created repeatedly by socks from this farm. Adding Timexway found in the same logs because it edited last month which suggests it's not abandoned, just waiting. Also adding Aalia from the same logs who is glocked but not blocked locally (to ask if we should do that just to be safe and for the record). Thanks! Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:33, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * As TonyBallioni and others have pointed out in the archives, this is an extremely busy range and the user agent is common. This will take a behavioral investigation to fully sort out and resolve.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * They all hit the same draft and only that draft. Blocked, tagged, closing. MER-C 18:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As TonyBallioni and others have pointed out in the archives, this is an extremely busy range and the user agent is common. This will take a behavioral investigation to fully sort out and resolve.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * They all hit the same draft and only that draft. Blocked, tagged, closing. MER-C 18:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As TonyBallioni and others have pointed out in the archives, this is an extremely busy range and the user agent is common. This will take a behavioral investigation to fully sort out and resolve.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * They all hit the same draft and only that draft. Blocked, tagged, closing. MER-C 18:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Aaliaaalia is locked, so for the other two. Archiving. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 15:03, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

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MKhalidButt created Draft:Helmut Schindlwick and moved it to Helmut Schindlwick. I have not seen the earlier incarnations created by User:Marktala and the blocked socks User:Salamado and User:Bambi Lulan, but MKhalidButt's version was blatant advertising, and I'm sure it is paid promotion. Per GeneralNotability's closing comments in the SPI from March, it might be someone else employed by the same firm, or another freelancer, or simply the same person.

I haven't found a connection between MSubhan009 and Marktala, but MSubhan009 is almost certainly the same person as MKhalidButt.
 * Portuguese casino spam in Gambling: MKhalidButt, MSubhan009
 * Portuguese casino spam in Energy economics (!) MKhalidButt, MSubhan009
 * Portuguese casino spam in Casino game: MSubhan009, MKhalidButt, MSubhan009 again bonadea contributions talk 09:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Pretty confident these (plus ) are all UA85, not Marktala, based on overlap with past UA85 socks. Moved to UA85,, since recent socks have been globally locked. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

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Recently blocked sock wrote many articles on TEVTA schools and created Template:TEVTA Institutes. After MSubhan009 was blocked, BilalCheemaKhan created an article about one such institute, Youth Institute of Technology, which is quite similar in style to what I remember of MSubhan009's articles, and posted on Template talk:TEVTA Institutes. But the real kicker is the fact that BilalCheemaKhan's talk page post was to ask if Umair Ahmad's website is a reliable source, and that their article cites a self-published book by Umair Ahmad (Ahmad, Umair (2020-05-11). Umair, The Great: Young Pakistani Entrepreneur. Youth Publishers. ISBN 978-1-0996-9862-0). As documented at e.g. this sockfarm is very interested in promoting Umair Ahmad (including linking to the same websites). See also the history of Ahmad Nagar Chattha. Spicy (talk) 11:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * - Please, compare to .  Vanjagenije   (talk)  10:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)  Vanjagenije   (talk)  10:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Added BilalArifEditor for moving Special:Undelete/Amanotes into mainspace (created by RanaBilalMughal). Also of note, they created Draft:Elrond Network which is a Sockpuppet investigations/Serghiy Hrabarook article]]. MER-C 15:04, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . PhilKnight (talk) 17:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I have locally blocked (and tagged) the socks, but if a clerk could contact a steward to globally lock them, that would be great. PhilKnight (talk) 17:29, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * GeneralNotability (talk) 02:20, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

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Recreation of spam drafts Draft:Enye Tech and Draft:UCloudlink, both originally created by confirmed sock. MER-C 19:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Should someone close this case right about now? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked and tagged, so nothing left to do here, closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

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Found when checking another case due to the accounts being on a similar /24. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:11, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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✅ to. Both are to  to. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:11, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Tagged, . Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 10:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Quack: adding Umair Ahmad and Youth Group Limited to Pakistan Times. Looking at the history of that article, there are quite a few edits by blocked UA85 socks, for instance,. bonadea contributions talk 21:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * -  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  22:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ,, and  are all ✅ to each other. They're only  to the proposed master based on the technical logs, but taking behaviour and other BEANS factors into account, I'm blocking as suspected and requesting locks.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  22:12, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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A precocious editor who was using the Shortdesc helper gadget in their first edit, Aanyaumair has Youth Institute of Technology with the same log summary as  back. In addition to the positive flood of NPP-related matters (such as their third edit adding more citations needed and knowing to use multiple issues, all without using Twinkle at this point), they have added Youth Group Limited sources to Daily Pakistan, Daily Times, The Express Tribune etc, which are hallmarks of this sockmaster's behaviour (Ctrl "Youth Group" at Sockpuppet investigations/UA85/Archive. . Sdrqaz (talk) 01:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ plus and . . Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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Again and again adding citations of Youth Group's website on different articles and relaunch of old defunct Pakistan Times which they assume to relaunched by themselves but it is already defunct since 1966 orignally. Wallu2 (talk) 06:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * - policy prohibits us from using the CU tool to publicly link named accounts to IP addresses. I note that this IP has only ever made six edits, all within a few hours of each other, and all over a week ago. There is no ongoing disruption to address - if the edits are unconstructive, revert them. If this IP or others become active again, feel free to file again for behavioural evaluation. Closing without further action.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  07:49, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

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Obvious from Commons uploads. Sock somehow got autopatrolled... sigh. MER-C 17:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * - yikes. Given the extensive warm-up period, please check for sleepers. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 17:50, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 18:30, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Pk303 is ✅. I also see  which look  for various reasons . -- RoySmith (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I see both of those have zero edits. I'll just call Virus suspected and Pk confirmed and move on. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:54, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * . Spicy (talk) 13:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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See below. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC) –&#8239;Joe (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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I investigated this user in relation to ticket:2022041910010431 and am quite convinced they are somebody's sock. Probably UA85's, but since the /24 range they usually use might be an open proxy, I'm not sure. Would appreciate a second opinion from another CU. There are also a bunch more potential socks on that range. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * for a second opinion per Joe. --Blablubbs (talk) 11:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 12:58, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I did a deep dive on Pk303 vs USZSI. It's hard to be sure, but my guess is they're two different people using the same set of proxies. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:50, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems like this has been dealt with at Sockpuppet investigations/USZSI, so closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 12:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

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Proforma report: came up in a check I was running on somebody else. ✅ to. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether) 15:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * Blocking, tagging, requesting lock.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  15:24, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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Focussed on trying to push the IoTeX draft through, similar to Zamne. —<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i> v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 19:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * - it doesn't appear as if UA85 has ever edited Draft:IoTeX. It might help if you can provide some diffs showing edits that are suspicious between these two accounts. <span style="font:bold 15px 'Bradley Hand','Bradley Hand ITC';color:#044;text-shadow:0 0 4px #033,0 0 10px #077;"> —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;—  16:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * is the sock. CU confirmed on Wikidata. MER-C 16:21, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is UA85, but they do seem to have a clear-cut COI and a previous account judging by their own statements. --Blablubbs (talk) 16:26, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * CU gives me nothing to link this account to any other account, including any of the recent UA85 socks. No comment on the COI issues, but I don't think they're a sock. Closing without further action.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  12:30, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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Pro-forma, see below. firefly ( t · c ) 14:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * PP-914 appeared to be gaming autopatrolled in a very similar way to previous UA85 sock, and has also been promoting Umair Ahmad over at pnbwiki, so I ran a check.
 * I found (a) that PP-914's technical data is consistent with socks in the archive, and (b) another account - ZWE1737 - which is ✅ to PP-914. ZWE is an even more obvious sock, locally uploading images of Umair Ahmad.
 * Blocked, tagged, closing. firefly  ( t · c ) 14:45, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Forgot the global locks - now requested. firefly  ( t · c ) 14:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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Pro forma; see below. Spicy (talk) 21:24, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * I checked UmairAhmad1212 and 1700A because of suspicious overlap here and the username suggesting a connection to this farm.


 * To begin with, the data we have for UA85 is old, but the geolocation and device is consistent.
 * The two listed accounts are to each other and ✅ to, who is in turn confirmed to
 * , blocked as a suspected sock of UA85
 * The following group is to the above and ✅ to each other:
 * The following group is to the above and ✅ to each other:


 * Also are:


 * Note that VirusSir identifies as Umair Ahmad on their userpage.
 * These accounts are engaging in similar types of cross-wiki spamming, gaming, and weirdness. For example, ZMB recreated Special:Undelete/Draft:Anjum_Raḥmānī, which was originally created by UA85. Compare Eric Cardinal's edit here  to  by 1700A, then see  and . Username patterns are similar to many past accounts (,, ; ; and of course ).  Spicy (talk) 21:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * All accounts, . The nature of the data made this pretty tedious and I haven't exhausted every single avenue, so it might not be a bad idea if any CUs want to take a second look for things I might have missed. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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Some accounts blocked by myself/others recently based on behaviour and CU. Filing for record-keeping and to make it easier to request a lock. Spicy (talk) 20:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * , closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)