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Ulpionz was on a single-purpose mission to spread WP:TENDENTIOUS pro-Turkish POV. He disliked words such as "Turco-Persian", which are often used in academic sources. He also often referred to "Persian" editors, whom he left hate messages about in Turkish (use google translate), as "chauvinists". Shakshak31 does exactly the same, and also leaves hateful messages in Turkish, whilst referring to "Persian" editors as chauvinists. Both users left these Turkish messages to the very same user, namely "Beshogur". - LouisAragon (talk) 01:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Shakshak31 (google translate): "=Persian chauvinism=. Hello teacher, Persian editors on wikipedia are making Turkish history Iranian. They constantly write "Turco-persian, Turco-afghan, persianized" to Turkish states, but for example, they treat the Safavids with disputed origins as if they were purebred Kurds. Also, I added the posters to the List of Turkic dynasties and countries list. The guys watched all the articles about Turkish. If anything they don't want, they say unreliable source and delete it directly. I've never seen such a lousy site. These are the thieves of history. I will be glad if you can do something. I, too, that same farsi complained to someone I don't know called sockpuppeti and I will be banned soon. Come easy to you. You can delete the message after reading it."


 * Ulpionz (google translate): "=Türk states and Persian chauvinists= Greetings, I would like to inform you about something and ask for help. On Wikipedia, Persian chauvinists use the term "Persianized" for almost every state related to Turkish states. They add articles that insult the word Turkish to the pages. Our history is at stake in such an international free information site. Among these Persian chauvinists are organized writers like "HistoryofIran". I ask you for information and assistance in this regard. " - LouisAragon (talk) 01:20, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Both users may be related to Sockpuppet investigations/Joohnny braavoo1 or Sockpuppet investigations/PapazaTaklaAttıranİmam based on their behavior and contribution/edit pattern. --Wario-Man (talk) 05:29, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * .  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * After looking at technical evidence as well as behavior, I'm not seeing the likelihood that Ulpionz is the same person as Shakshak31. Ulpionz might be almost blockable for disruption given some of the data above, but Shakshak31 is so far not in much trouble. (U. was already blocked once for personal attacks). Shakshak31 appears more sophisticated and many of their edits are reasonable. I wouldn't take action on Shakshak31 for anything as yet. Suggest we might close the SPI with no action, since Ulpionz has been inactive since early October anyway. EdJohnston (talk) 21:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Closing per 's analysis. I'll just add that for nationalistic topics such as this, I generally assume that "possible" from CU means "the same country" which means not much at all: two people who live in Elbonia (surprise!) care about Elbonian topics. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)