Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Unavailable.undisclosed/Archive

17 March 2015

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207 and 50.1 are definitely the same user (quack quack, as well as both harassing User:Wikiisawesome quack quack). Unavailable.undisclosed, 50.1, and 207 have all pushed the same conspiracy theory (if slightly reworded) at Knights Templar and Crusades about Alexander the Great being made up to justify going after the Silk Road. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:04, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 207 and 50.1 also geolocate to Ukiah, CA. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added 50.79.157.137, because of this and this. I'll also note that this empty threat that the NSA is watching me is comparable to 207's claims that he's gonna get Mossad after me.  Also, Ukiah again. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Here Unavailable.undisclosed posted "All western history is false story-telling to cover up their global socio-political-economic oobjectives and effort to take control of the silk road and trade route to Africa, which is now being subverted by the US." (emphasis added) Here Unavailable.undisclosed posted "Marco Polo was a pen name of the Aristocratic merchant globalist who sought to take control of the silk road from the Persians, since the story of Alexander the Great was made up, and so on, as people can only tolerate fantasies and not rational political economics."

Here and here one of the IPs says on the Crusades page "The crusades were a 2000 year old effort of the Europeans to take control of the trade route region to China and Africa from the Persians as was Conquests of Alexander the Great, which many believe are efforts of story-telling rather than factual history to undermine Aristocratic Socio-Political-Economic objectives, while fueling the efforts with fanatic believers in the cause. Easterners claim that there is little or no factual evidence of a majority of the events reported by Western Historians relating to these events and the conquests for the Persian trade routes and regions. The US's current role is to destabilize the region to prevent the establishment of Superhighways and control by any party: Europe, Persia, or China over the trade route region, in effort to sustain dependency on US global trade." (Emphasis added).

Both share the idea that Alexander the Great (and most of western history) was made up by some "Aristocratic" "globalist" conspiracy to justify trying to conquer the silk road, that the crusades are a larger part of this plot, that the Templars were connected to the conspiracy, and that the US's actions in the middle east are a continued part of this plot. Both keep focus on the words "Aristocratic," "Globalist," and "Socio-Political-Economic objectives." They have the same writing voice, and their concepts are identical. There is only slight rephrasing, and no other distinction. While comparing the US's actions to the crusades is not unique, the rest of the conspiracy theory (weaving in Alexander the Great, and broadening the crusades to include the Greek conquest of Persia, and the pseudo-Marxist ring of "Socio-Political-Economic objectives") is fairly unique to this individual. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:11, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * More proof: Unavailable.undisclosed just left a message on my talk page making veiled threats to appeals to "real authorities", in line with 50.79's and 207's previous threats. He was extremely angry that his IP addresses had been revealed. There would be no reason to be that angry unless those really were his IP addresses.  Ian.thomson (talk) 00:38, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Added 173.8.179.133, also from Ukiah. 173. made the same ironic and hypocritical accusations of cowardice as User:Unavailable.undisclosed.  Ian.thomson (talk) 17:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Those IPs obviously belong to the same person, but I don't understand their connection to Unavailable.undisclosed., can you explain this connection in detail?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:42, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * All of the accused are now blocked. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:44, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

19 March 2015

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Same sort of trolling obsession with globalism, conspiracy theories, and the crusades as ( and ; ). Filed for record keeping, and requesting CU for sleepers. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added Ian.Thomson.p: Same sort of trolling, impersonation of me, and Persian trade route obsession. Ian.thomson (talk) 06:02, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added Ian.Thomson5534:, , , , ; WP:IMPERSONATE and WP:HARASS of Ian.thomson. --Drm310 (talk) 17:45, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added Ammaury, impersonation and hairbrained accusations of sockpuppetry, as with 50.1. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * And Favionn, imitating User:Favonian and continuing with the sockpuppetry accusations. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

+2 -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:14, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * +1 Ian.thomson (talk) 20:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * And another. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

And:

Same interest in Templars, Crusades. And clearly WP:NOTHERE. Dougweller (talk) 11:58, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Plans to copulate with users' sisters seems to also be a secondary MO. And good luck with that, my only sibling is about my size (6'2", 220 lbs) and has a beard. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:00, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Another obvious one. Blocked by the time I found it. Dougweller (talk) 06:27, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * - to look for sleepers.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Checkuser comments: This has already been reviewed by some of my colleagues, accounts including sleepers have been blocked, and a range block has been applied. All of the accounts listed are socks.  This can now be closed.  Risker (talk) 02:54, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Risker. Mike V • Talk 03:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

28 March 2015

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Same obsession with trying to "expose" information on my userpage, and me saying stuff to people's faces (btw, could we get a revdel on his contribs?). CU for sleepers. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:35, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added Quadif ama maha, similar behavior. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:02, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * For those unfamiliar with the case, here is the threat to "expose" me, and bit about saying stuff to people's faces. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Adza wa hama's edit here and talk page rant calls back to previous accounts' obsession with Persia, Jews, carrying out "God's" will, and being a "martyr". Ian.thomson (talk) 03:13, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added Ama_shahadif, who responded on Adza wa hama's behalf, made the usual ironic threats that must be so easy behind a keyboard. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson] (talk) 03:45, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Obvious block evasion, continued the conversation on User talk:Adza wa hama and otherwise says things identical to the other socks, also vandalized a userpage. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 10:31, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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The fact that the last user was intent on disrupting this investigation here, here and here is a strong sign that they're guilty. Joseph2302 (talk) 02:35, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added User:Adza wa hama because they're vandalising this page. Seems likely they're the same person therefore. Joseph2302 (talk) 02:45, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Unblocked accounts blocked. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * - There is a large possibility that sleeper accounts exist.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:15, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * This user had only been temporarily blocked. I upped it to indef for socking.
 * This user had only been temporarily blocked. I upped it to indef for socking.
 * This user had only been temporarily blocked. I upped it to indef for socking.


 * All the accounts are now blocked. . Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

17 April 2015

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Attempted outing, CU for inevitable sleepers. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2015 (UTC) Ian.thomson (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * ✅ I've suppressed the concerning info. Mike V • Talk 01:30, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

04 July 2015

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All edits are attempted WP:OUTING, as usual. This guy tends to create multiple accounts in a single go. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * There is only one non-stale account to compare against,, and that account is fairly old with resepct to more current technical data.
 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other and to Spambot.munster:
 * Blocked (when needed), tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked (when needed), tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked (when needed), tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked (when needed), tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked (when needed), tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

17 July 2015

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Usual, attempted WP:OUTING. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:42, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked and tagged. (Undis)closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  00:48, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

09 August 2015

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50.0.169.52: Correct geolocation, same crackpot obsessions with Mossad as previous socks, as well as the Knights Templar (as before).

50.254.143.246: Same user as 50.0., as evidenced by this edit. Their advocacy of conspiracy theories and their focus on California is not the least bit out of place for Unavailable.undisclosed.

Sockpuppet.1187: See this. Same obsession with the Illuminati, edits comparable to the above IPs at Gentrification. Already blocked, but does establish an obsession with the Gentrification article as part of UU's modus operandi.

Ian.thomson (talk) 21:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Tagged as suspected. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)