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11 August 2011

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User: Usenduro created the Kenneth Bryan Grammer article, about a presidential candidate who was determined to be non-notable and whose article was deleted. According to Talk: United States presidential election, 2012, Usenduro claimed to be Grammer himself. Later, after the Grammer article was deleted, the IP began editing the talk page and United States presidential election, 2012 article to add Grammer. The IP claimed to be a 13-year-old boy from Illinois when asked if he was Grammer. The IP geolocates to Michigan, not Illinois. Later, User: Hermanator1 was created, whose edits both included a (possibly sarcastic) claim that the IP is Grammer and also the same talking points regarding Grammer's notability (that Grammer is notable because he, unlike Jack Fellure et al., has officially declared his candidacy) that the IP and Usenduro had repeated earlier. These edits were all in a very short span of time, and something looks fishy. All three have expressed a very rude, abrasive style (for example, the IP edited William S. Saturn's signature, changing it to "William S. Buttox", and also called Wikipedians thick-skulled and "dumbo"). Lastly, claiming to be underage (as the IP did) is, if I'm not mistaken, forbidden per WP: CHILD. Difluoroethene (talk) 03:46, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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With regard to the ID "Hermanator1" and the IP address "68.41.32.124", neither of these are associated with me (USENDURO). Once I better understood the "too close to the subject" comments and realized that it was an admin that was removing the page I was attempting to create (Kenneth Bryan Grammer) from Wikipedia, I immediately stopped trying to add (or re-add) the page. I am also, sadly, considerably older than 13.

At this point I have no idea who "Hermanator1" may be. I live in Virginia, not Illinois or Michigan and I can think of no one I know in either state that would attempt to replicate my page.

With regard to the nature of my actions, I will apologize again for failing to understand the Wikipedia page creation rules, but rest assured that once explained I stopped attempting to create the page or update the 2012 presidential candidates page. I am sorry that I didn't better understand the rules, but please understand that it is very hard for an independent candidate to get noticed and my desire to be recognized through Wikipedia should be seen as a statement of how important I feel Wikipedia is with regard to people seeking basic information.

If there are any additional concerns that I am attempting to skirt the rules, please do not hesitate to contact me. If desired, I will most certainly delete my Wikipedia account, as it was never my intention to do anything beyond simple get listed. Ken Grammer (talk) 05:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usenduro (talk • contribs) 04:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - If you are who you say you are, then you should know that Wikipedia isn't meant to be a place to advertise yourself. Having said that, I find Hermanator's presence here mildly suspicious, so I'm endorsing to see what's up. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The two named accounts appear ❌ to each other. TN X Man  14:36, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Per HelloAnnyong, closing. -- DQ  (t)   (e)  19:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)