Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vanished476/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( originally filed under this user)

January 21, 2023, the master initiated an RM @Talk:Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret (film) to move the page to ''Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret. (film)''; just a full-stop punctation (.) added to the end but the result was "not moved". Fast-forward to April 1, the sock was created, and initiates a new RM the same day on the same article talk page for the same RM reasoning as the master's RM. The sock has made no outside edits from their RM, and this time, the master is now a participant in the RM to support the move with them referencing their failed RM as a reason to move the page. Jerium (talk) 15:27, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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I have no idea who that is!! Why am I being accused of this? – FilmVoyage (talk) 03:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - this is suspicious, but the behavioural evidence on its own is not enough to justify a block. Please compare the accounts to confirm. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Even if they did turn out to be confirmed, with just a handful of edits, I'd probably just drop a warning, so I'll save the time and just do that now. If there continues to be sock-ish behavior, please reopen the case and ping me. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:04, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think deliberate subversion of community consensus is serious enough to warrant a check, and I wanted to make sure there are no other instances, so I ran one. ✅, with a residual possibility of two people who know each other editing from the same connection (in which case WP:MEAT applies). Votestacking is something I'd usually block for, but I'll go with Roy's gentler approach and leave a warning for the master as well. --Blablubbs (talk) 19:23, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Master renamed . Cabayi (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cabayi Should we revert this rename? What is your opinion? — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 17:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * - I'm curious why you renamed this user.  Was there a request somewhere that I'm not finding?  And if there was, is it standard practice to process rename requests for users that are actively being investigated for sockpuppetry?  -- RoySmith (talk) 16:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @RoySmith Thanks for pinging. This user requested a rename via Special:GlobalRenameQueue. Link: m:Special:GlobalRenameQueue/request/105657/. I was not aware of this investigation. — Yahya ( talk  •  contribs. ) 17:26, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have permission to see that queue, but it's not a big deal. I'll just re-close this and not worry about it until they start socking again. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * , expecting renamers to hunt for an SPI case is a high demand. The most that can be expected is that blocked users will not be renamed, and that renames may be reverted if later found to be deceptive. This user was not actively being investigated when renamed, you had closed the case with a caution two days before the renaming happened.
 * , it was a perfectly reasonable rename, and there was no policy based reason to decline it.
 * My move of the SPI case may have diminished the effect of the vanishing (oh dear), but it clarified the audit trail of the SPI. It was imo the reasonable outcome. ymmv Cabayi (talk) 19:37, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * To be fair to Vanished476 I should also point out that the request too was made on the 10th, long after the case was closed. Cabayi (talk) 19:40, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. @Yahya my apologies if I seemed abrupt.  I was just surprised to see the original case page had gone away. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)