Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vercetticarl/Archive

Evidence submitted by Desyman44
User Vercetticarl was blocked on 9 August 2009, then unblocked, then finally blocked definitively on 25 August 2009 by Cool3 for inappropriate behavior and edit warring (see history). Carl vercetti made first edit on november 2009. The name is basically the same and in the main page one reads "I'm back". It seems therefore a typical case of block evading (an uncivil user is blocked, another or more uncivil ones appear). 190.53.225.34 and Carl vercetti are in fact both showing uncivil behavior and involved in edit warring. The edits by these users are practically all concentrated on the 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis (Template:Honduran Presidents, Manuel Zelaya, Roberto Micheletti, Carlos Roberto Flores, Ricardo Maduro, Xiomara de Zelaya, Adolfo Lionel Sevilla, Liberal Party of Honduras, Central Bank of Honduras, Sandra Midence, etc.) and all of them tend to make similar edits (f.e. changing "de facto" from "acting" on the Roberto Micheletti page and on the template page) intended to support the military takeover and Micheletti's goverment. Furthermore, edits by Carl vercetti and 190.53.225.34 are often made at the same time, one after the other, just minutes apart. The use of language is also very similar, with similar formulation of sentences, similar arguments and, I must say, similar arrogance. Reading in Carl vercetti's page one reads: "I live in Honduras so I know way better than anyone who is not from Honduras what really happened and is happening here. Manuel Zelaya broke the constitution and must face charges and go to jail. NO TO AMNESTY. Roberto Micheletti is the Interim or Acting president of Honduras NOT de facto. The honduran election of november 29, 2009 are totally legal. And the Organization of American States, especially with his secretary Jose Miguel Insulza, are sh*t, they don't care about democracy. Insulza has not said anything about the illegal procedure the supreme court of nicaragua used to allow Daniel Ortega to be re-electted!!! F*ck the OAS!!! And f*ck communism and Chavez!!" and on Vercetticarl's one: I firmly support Roberto Micheletti's government and totally condemned Manuel Zelaya's administration. What happened in Honduras was not a coup, it was a legal presidential succession. Zelaya violated the constitution and he must be punished with jail. and WARNING: DON'T BELIEVE THESE GUYS WHO SUPPORTS THE DICTATORS HUGO CHAVEZ, EVO MORALES, RAUL CASTRO, MANUEL ZELAYA, DANIEL ORTEGA AND RAFAEL CORREA: User:Cool3 [the user who blocked him], User:Mangojuice, User:EdJohnston, User:Maunus and User:Congolon. , while user 190.53.225.34 wrote me in the talk page of Union civica democratica: if you are NOT from honduras then please stop contributing to these articles since you don't know what happened exactly in my country, thank you after I tried to solve a edit war between him and another ip (186.18.9.96), who was against Micheletti. Similar thing he did with this ip, threatening to block it. Probably there's enough for a user conduct procedure, but first I'd like to be sure whether there is sockpuppetting involved.--Desyman44 (talk) 02:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

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case moved from Sockpuppet investigations/190.53.225.34 to /Vercetticarl SpitfireTally-ho! 06:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Blocked the obvious account indef'd, both IPs for a week. FWIW, I also blocked 186.18.9.96 for a really inane edit-war with one of the IPs on Template:Honduran Presidents and Roberto Micheletti. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 22:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Desyman44
The user Theboyinlaw seems to be a reincarnation of the ip 190.53.225.34, which was blocked for one week, following the procedure Sockpuppet investigations/Vercetticarl/Archive, as suspected sockpuppet of the blocked user Vercetticarl. Here the whole story: Vercetticarl was permanently blocked on 25 August 2009 by Cool3 after being blocked temporarily many times for edit warring and incivil behaviour while editing articles related to the Honduran constitutional crisis of 2009, and always failing to comply with admins' requests for de-blocking. The user evaded the block reappearing as Vercettiboy (the ip 190.53.244.15 was also suspected) and was therefore blocked with the sockpuppetry investigation Suspected sock puppets/Vercetticarl. The user again reappeared as Carl vercetti and as 190.53.225.34, showing the same behaviour (edit warring, incivil behaviour, POV edits, edits on sensible topics without using talk pages, removal of pertinent of referenced material in Honduran 2009 crisis-related articles. He was therefore blocked once more by Amorymeltzer (Sockpuppet investigations/Vercetticarl/Archive), the IPs 190.53.225.34 and 190.53.84.148 being blocked for one week (from March the 5th to March the 12th). On March 13th Theboyinlaw made his first contribution and its activity, by comparing contributions lists, seems to continuate in all senses the one of the previous blocked users. The articles on which he operates are the same (Template:Honduran Presidents, Roberto Micheletti, Unión Cívica Democrática, President of the National Congress of Honduras, Honduran general election, 2009, Romeo Vásquez Velásquez), the behaviour as well (rollbacking without using talk pages, unjustified removal of sourced or pertinent material, edit warring), and so are the content of his edits (reverting to the same text, as in the case of Roberto Micheletti, Template:Honduran Presidents, Unión Cívica Democrática and President of the National Congress of Honduras, removing the same materal, as in Honduran general election, 2009). Finally, some edits by Theboyinlaw seem to be a bit too advanced for new users, such as .--Desyman44 (talk) 20:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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Theboyinlaw indefinitely blocked and tagged. The IPs haven't edited in a while, and the /16 range has a bit of uninvolved edits. –MuZemike 21:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Desyman44
User Vercetticarl, responsible of uncivil behavior and block evasion through multiple sockpuppeting (see Sockpuppet investigations/Vercetticarl/Archive and Suspected sock puppets/Vercetticarl) seems to be also behind the IP 190.53.225.34, as already shown here. It is however fairly clear, as the articles and the edits by this IP are identical to those made by the sockpuppet of Vercetticarl (User:carl vercetti, User:Vercettiboy, User:Theboyinlaw and User:190.53.244.15), as well as the behavior (stubborn edit warring, unjustified and repeated removal of content, even when referenced, threatening other users...). It is also shown by the fact that f.e. User:Theboyinlaw was created on 13 March, exactly at the expiring of the week-long block of the IP 190.53.225.34. Having User:Theboyinlaw been blocked on 16 March, the IP restarted editing, removing again a picture that the sockpuppets of Vercetticarl already tried to remove through continuous edit wars with several users. The IP was blocked already for a limited period. However, I believe that, unless the IP and the possibility to create accounts are indefinitely blocked, this user will continue evading blocks by creating new sockpuppets, as he did so far, or acting as IP, since he seems to have a sort of "mission" to perform (See User talk:Vercetticarl: "I'M FIGHTING BACK FOR THE TRUTH IN WIKIPEDIA").--Desyman44 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

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Requested by Desyman44 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

because this is a. The IP range is, which is in my opinion too wide for a block, although I'll leave it up to an admin to judge that. It may be worth blocking the IP for a period of time, as it seems to be a recurring one. SpitfireTally-ho! 20:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * 1 month for the IP; leaving the range unblocked for now. Tim Song (talk) 21:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Desyman44
As for the other numerous sockpuppets of this user (see Carl vercetti, Theboyinlaw, Vercettiboy, 190.53.244.15, 190.53.225.34), this sockpuppet is used to evade a block imposed on Vercetticarl. All the edits focus on the same unjustified reverting of sourced material and wikiwars related to the 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis from an ideological POV (Unión Cívica Democrática, Roberto Micheletti, Manuel Zelaya...). Already widely documented on Sockpuppet investigations/Vercetticarl/Archive and on Suspected sock puppets/Vercetticarl.

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Requested by Desyman44 (talk) 02:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC) Quacks to me. Account blocked. TN X Man 13:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * - Sleeper check, since it's been a long while since the last CU, if any was done. T. Canens (talk) 15:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

✅, also. . J.delanoy gabs adds  18:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)