Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ViamarisBalbi/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets


Great overlap of the three accounts as shown by the interaction analyser. Master already blocked for relentless edit-warring on ancient Greek scientists. I guess the block of the master was too much for him because the new sock CalinicoFire started similar, pro-Phoenician POV edit-warring on, an article the master edit-warred similar POV on just before getting blocked. Sock Enion Glas is adding the usual pro-Phoenician POV on. . Dr.   K.  00:24, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * Introduction
 * Additional evidence
 * Sock cooperation
 * In this touching example of sock cooperation, sock Enion Glas finishes the words of sock CalinicoFire.
 * Master comments on Thales's talkpage then sock CalinicoFire supplies the sources to support the master, then, about an hour later, master picks up where the sock left off. Please see also the editing overlap/sock switch on 1 October between the two socks on Thales's talk.
 * Master edits a filename a minute after sock Enion Glas added a blank space on Bethany Kehdy.
 * Ditto here on the same day but on Mzaar Kfardebian
 * Close overlap of the same socks on Georges Hobeika
 * Here master and sock Calinico are switching socks and having overlapping editing fun on Jose Gabriel García.
 * Here master and both socks are switching accounts to their hearts' content and having overlapping editing and edit-warring fun on Khouri, one of their favourite articles.
 * Sock Calinico is channeling the master
 * Sock Calinico tells me that the master has spoken to him and has told him to tell me to stop harassing him. What can I say?
 * Sock Calinico confesses
 * Confession:
 * He figueres that this Wikihounding/harassment will not stop and that when he tried to defend his previous block he did not get any help from other editors and his case was left in limbo so he might need to resort to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Legitimate_uses to avoid further harassment. He will file a complaint and keep looking for assistance from the board if you dont desistCalinicoFire (talk) 02:35, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sock Calinico confesses for the second time
 * Second confession:


 * ViamrisBalbi says that as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_sock_puppetry "Anyone who uses multiple accounts in good faith is not violating any policies, shall face no action, and no attempts shall be made to determine if such accounts are linked" and says that as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Legitimate_uses to avoid further harassment and for privacy since he edits articles of controversial nature within and outside of his country of origin and might put family at risk even if other editors might think otherwise as legitimate uses of sock puppetry.
 * Calinico and Enion Glas making identical accusations while this SPI is ongoing


 * Sock Enion Glas edit-wars using attacking edit-summary: (Undid revision 811495564 by Dr.K. (talk) I believe this a case of the editor Katolophyromai being an ostrich as per WP:OSTRICH and of you WP:GAME)
 * In this very SPI Calinico repeats the same accusations below.


 * Please see also
 * Communication on my talk by a concerned Wikipedian
 * Comment to CU
 * Doc, told me that s/he thinks there may other socks in the farm. By the way, nice line about the four K users. :)  Dr.   K.  01:47, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Drmies got the one I was concerned about in his sweep. I didn't see anything else obvious, but thought he might have a few pre-planned sleepers; seems not. I'm flattered to be considered a part of that second sock farm. Kuru   (talk)  03:42, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''

As per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dr.K.#ViamarisBalbi_is_back_under_two_new_sockpuppet_accounts I believe this a case of the editor Katolophyromai being an ostrich on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrhenians edit by Enion Glas as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_be_an_ostrich and of both him and Dr. K trying to game the system as they have done numerous times to get away with their edit reversals of sourced content as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gaming_the_system and performing a witch hunt as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Witch_hunt to prevent ViamarisBalbi and CalinicoFire from making sourced contributions.

ViamrisBalbi has been blocked twice due to Dr. K, Katolophyromai and Khirurg Wikihouding as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikihounding, with hunt and system gaming. He tried to appeal his 2nd block as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ViamarisBalbi but the review was quickly rejected due perhaps to ViamarisBalbi inexperience with appealing blocks or perhaps due to no other editors looking carefully into the case. He says he will resort to the following once his block is expired to see if that helps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Request_comment_through_talk_pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Volunteer_Response_Team

ViamarisBalbi states that sockpuppeting sometimes is the only way to avoid harassment from editors such as Katolophyromai, Dr. K and Khirurg and for privacy issues due to his edits on controversial topics both inside and outside his country which might endanger him and his family despite what other editors might believe about this.

For further details of the original discussion see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pythagoras — Preceding unsigned comment added by CalinicoFire (talk • contribs) 08:12, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * This is probably duck territory, but I'd prefer a checkuser clear the potential for a meat vs. sock issue. Aside from the above, here's another sketchy example that probably indicates pure sock: Looking at the history of Nieves Navarro, I can see that ViamarisBalbi uploaded copyvio images on 1/31. One image was added to the Nieves Navarro article two minutes later by CalinicoFire on 1/31. The image was deleted on commons on 10/26. Enion Glas re-uploaded the image with a different file name on 10/31, and CalincioFire re-added the image five minutes later to Nieves Navarro on 10/31. Kuru   (talk)  15:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You CU blocked them. Are they confirmed to a different case or am I okay to close this here? Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:58, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Sir Sputnik, I did not find any others. Would you like me to run CU on those suspicious K-accounts (User:Kuru, User:Dr.K., User:Khirurg, and user:Katolophyromai)? They all seem way too interested in building an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed. We might wind up with well referenced resource if we let people like this run rampant. Closing and tagging. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:41, 25 November 2017 (UTC)