Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vjardin2/Archive

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Apparently two WP:SPA accounts (the supposed sockmaster had other edits, but were deleted), bizarre WP:DUCK at Fight the New Drug. ,, , , , basically erasing the fact that its founders are all Mormons and erasing negative publicity about the group, although both erased data rely upon WP:RS. All these WP:DUCK edits happened during 11 hours (from the Five o'clock of 1 May 2019 to the morning of 2 May 2019, Zulu Time Zone). I mean "bizarre" since both users got templated with agf-sock, but this did not stop WP:DUCK, which made me fill this report. Tgeorgescu (talk) 05:39, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Cabayi (talk) 20:08, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * - Please confirm & check for sleepers. The behavioral evidence (fixation on Fight the New Drug) indicates they're puppets of the stale SPI. Cabayi (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This is complicated.
 * Group 1 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and ❌ to NeuroSex:
 * Although Baseballreader899 is a suspected sock of, the two accounts are ❌.
 * Group 2 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and a technical match to Group 1 but I see no behavioral connection:
 * Group 3 – the following accounts are ✅ to NeuroSex:
 * NewsYouCanUse2018
 * I've blocked all the unblocked accounts without tags. The Group 1 accounts should be tagged. The Group 3 accounts should be tagged. The clerk may do whatever they want with Group 2. Sockpuppet investigations/NewsYouCanUse2018 should be split according to my findings. If any of this is unclear, please ask for clarification.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , I'm not sure how you want the split done. There's only one case in the archive at Sockpuppet investigations/NewsYouCanUse2018/Archive - do you want that case filed in the archives of this page and also at NeuroSex, and a copy of this case filed at NeuroSex, and NewsYouCanUse2018's SPI pointed to NeuroSex? Cabayi (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. Putting aside Group 2, the archive from News should be merged into the NeuroSex case. The Group 3 findings should be merged into the Neurosex case. This case - Vjardin2 - should remain intact. The findings here should be repeated in both cases so others can follow what happened from the archives. The history should remain as complete as possible in both cases. I can do simple merges and restore history, but I cannot do histmerges, if that is what is needed here. There are clerks who are good at it, and other than, who isn't as active as he used to be, I always forget who they are.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case all I can do is strike my ClerkAtWork notice so that an Admin/Clerk will tackle the job. Cabayi (talk) 16:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Bbb23 - I've merged the archives from the NewsYouCanUse2018 SPI archives (Group 2), and changed both the SPI page and the archives page for NewsYouCanUse2018 to redirect accordingly to the NeuroSex SPI pages (diff 1, diff 2). I also merged the two accounts listed in Group 3 to the most recent archived SPI case for NeuroSex. Since this was the parent report for all three groups, I think that the histories should remain here instead of having us split them around. If, however, others feel differently - I'm more than happy to perform a histmerge; I do these all the time. :-) Let me know if I've done something wrong or if I missed anything and I'll make sure that it gets completed. I'm going to leave the status as-is until I'm given confirmation that everything requested has been done.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   03:44, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging Bbb23 to have him look and make sure I did everything that was asked.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry. I meant to look at this when you first pinged me, but I knew I'd have to think a lot to do it (smile), so I put it aside, and then I forgot. I'll try to wrap my head around this again either today or tomorrow.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:14, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Bbb23 - No problem! Just ping me when you verify that I've completed everything requested (or if I haven't). :-) There's no rush.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   13:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I knew this would happen. I've wrapped my head around it and I have a headache. I was expecting a histmerge, but I think your reasons why you didn't do one are sound. My biggest concern is whether in the future I or anyone else will be able to figure out what happened. Thanks, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. Putting aside Group 2, the archive from News should be merged into the NeuroSex case. The Group 3 findings should be merged into the Neurosex case. This case - Vjardin2 - should remain intact. The findings here should be repeated in both cases so others can follow what happened from the archives. The history should remain as complete as possible in both cases. I can do simple merges and restore history, but I cannot do histmerges, if that is what is needed here. There are clerks who are good at it, and other than, who isn't as active as he used to be, I always forget who they are.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case all I can do is strike my ClerkAtWork notice so that an Admin/Clerk will tackle the job. Cabayi (talk) 16:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Bbb23 - I've merged the archives from the NewsYouCanUse2018 SPI archives (Group 2), and changed both the SPI page and the archives page for NewsYouCanUse2018 to redirect accordingly to the NeuroSex SPI pages (diff 1, diff 2). I also merged the two accounts listed in Group 3 to the most recent archived SPI case for NeuroSex. Since this was the parent report for all three groups, I think that the histories should remain here instead of having us split them around. If, however, others feel differently - I'm more than happy to perform a histmerge; I do these all the time. :-) Let me know if I've done something wrong or if I missed anything and I'll make sure that it gets completed. I'm going to leave the status as-is until I'm given confirmation that everything requested has been done.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   03:44, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging Bbb23 to have him look and make sure I did everything that was asked.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry. I meant to look at this when you first pinged me, but I knew I'd have to think a lot to do it (smile), so I put it aside, and then I forgot. I'll try to wrap my head around this again either today or tomorrow.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:14, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Bbb23 - No problem! Just ping me when you verify that I've completed everything requested (or if I haven't). :-) There's no rush.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   13:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I knew this would happen. I've wrapped my head around it and I have a headache. I was expecting a histmerge, but I think your reasons why you didn't do one are sound. My biggest concern is whether in the future I or anyone else will be able to figure out what happened. Thanks, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)