Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Whaterss/Archive

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Make same edits in short time at Douban. O1lI0 (talk) 08:38, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Comment – Is there a way to easily rename this SPI after Whaterss, as Whaterss is the oldest-created account and thus would be considered the sockmaster? Citobun (talk) 00:38, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Pending comment by, who blocked Whoeverer as a CU-confirmed sock of Whaterss. I suspect he meant to block Whaterss as well, but I just want to verify that. ~ Rob 13 Talk 16:09, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I have blocked Whaterss in the meanwhile - they admit in the unblock request that the accounts are owned by the same user. SQL Query me!  23:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing as both named accounts have been blocked. Sro23 (talk) 02:09, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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The above users/IPs have been edit warring for a few days to push the viewpoint of the Chinese government on the same few articles, contrary to our policy on WP:NOT. For instance, the first and second IPs both blanked the word "prominent" from a description of a jailed Chinese columnist on the same article 1, 2. The second and third IPs have kept adding the same "better source needed" template to a BBC reference on the article Gyaincain Norbu: 1, 2. "INDICATOR2018" has appeared in an apparent attempt to circumvent page protection at Category:Hong Kong, which prevents IPs from editing. INDICATOR2018's very first edit outside userspace was to make the same change that the fourth IP, first IP, and third IP had been edit warring over, which got the category protected from anonymous edits in the first place. Citobun (talk) 10:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * User has similarly used the new account to evade page protection and continue edit warring at "Battle of Toungoo", One Belt One Road, and elsewhere... Citobun (talk) 18:18, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * I have created this account and will not be using IP to edit Wikipedia. --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 10:47, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Btw, in terms of the word "prominent", I can't find this description from the cited source. As for the BBC issue, that cited source is BBC broadcast which doesn't have any links and cannot be thus verified. Therefore, I added that template in hope of someone who can find a verifiable source. Also, accusing me of "pushing the viewpoint of the Chinese government " is of no help here. --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 10:56, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Finally, I want to add that 223.89.144.195, 223.104.19.131 and 223.89.144.25 (which I had used)are all within the same IP range and have the same ISP. --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 11:04, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * So to you, any edits made by me are deliberately plotted to push my political agenda? Would you simply mind stop making such accusations? --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 00:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * See Battle of Toungoo & Baren Township riot--O1lI0 (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * So you assume these IPs are all me? --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 12:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Those IP or sock puppets keeps editing war for a long time and I do not think they will give up. You continue editing war after IP disappears.So you may be related to those IP or sock puppets.These IPs seem to be able to use PROXY. Like 170.78.72.0/22.--O1lI0 (talk) 13:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My creation of this account has been explained by admin "Oshwah". So these tons of IPs are not my business. Btw, I truly appreciate your patience with which you have found so many socks.--INDICATOR2018 (talk) 13:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * See Battle of Toungoo & Baren Township riot--O1lI0 (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * So you assume these IPs are all me? --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 12:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Those IP or sock puppets keeps editing war for a long time and I do not think they will give up. You continue editing war after IP disappears.So you may be related to those IP or sock puppets.These IPs seem to be able to use PROXY. Like 170.78.72.0/22.--O1lI0 (talk) 13:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My creation of this account has been explained by admin "Oshwah". So these tons of IPs are not my business. Btw, I truly appreciate your patience with which you have found so many socks.--INDICATOR2018 (talk) 13:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * See Battle of Toungoo & Baren Township riot--O1lI0 (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * So you assume these IPs are all me? --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 12:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Those IP or sock puppets keeps editing war for a long time and I do not think they will give up. You continue editing war after IP disappears.So you may be related to those IP or sock puppets.These IPs seem to be able to use PROXY. Like 170.78.72.0/22.--O1lI0 (talk) 13:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My creation of this account has been explained by admin "Oshwah". So these tons of IPs are not my business. Btw, I truly appreciate your patience with which you have found so many socks.--INDICATOR2018 (talk) 13:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * See Battle of Toungoo & Baren Township riot--O1lI0 (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * So you assume these IPs are all me? --INDICATOR2018 (talk) 12:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Those IP or sock puppets keeps editing war for a long time and I do not think they will give up. You continue editing war after IP disappears.So you may be related to those IP or sock puppets.These IPs seem to be able to use PROXY. Like 170.78.72.0/22.--O1lI0 (talk) 13:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My creation of this account has been explained by admin "Oshwah". So these tons of IPs are not my business. Btw, I truly appreciate your patience with which you have found so many socks.--INDICATOR2018 (talk) 13:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My creation of this account has been explained by admin "Oshwah". So these tons of IPs are not my business. Btw, I truly appreciate your patience with which you have found so many socks.--INDICATOR2018 (talk) 13:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * This account just verified their creation and disclosed this using an IP on ANI, and I set their account as confirmed for doing this - see the ANI discussion here. Unless there's more that I don't know about, there's nothing illegitimate here. This information was suppressed on ANI in order to keep the IP address to the account private.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:32, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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I noticed that these IPs and accounts may be related.

Like Wolf Warrior 2, ‎Xi Jinping,Xi Jinping Thought,China,Suining–Chongqing railway.

Note that the block may not have any effect if it is confirmed to be the same person. One more thing, these accounts are in conflict with .O1lI0 (talk) 14:54, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * - Whaterss and Whoeverer are both stale. Sro23 (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, you declined while I was checking. INDICATOR2018 is ✅, blocked and tagged. Please merge Sockpuppet investigations/INDICATOR2018 into this one.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:51, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:14, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

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I have blocked another new account related to this SPI, submitting for the record. Alex Shih (talk) 01:15, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked and tagged accordingly. Alex Shih (talk) 01:15, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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Same editing behavior as all the other blocked sockpuppets, i.e. going around subtly asserting Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan, Xinjiang, Senkaku/Diaoyutoi islands, etc. Randomly censoring references to the Tiananmen Square massacre and other bits of info that might reflect badly on the Chinese government. Citobun (talk) 04:01, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Edit: Just added two more IPs. Citobun (talk) 12:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I suspect 223.104.109.72 is the same person too. Citobun (talk) 13:54, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Added 123.161.168.48 and 123.161.170.73. Citobun (talk) 06:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Added 123.161.170.234 and 222.88.208.184. Citobun (talk) 06:50, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Added 113.92.155.214. Citobun (talk) 13:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Added 123.161.171.194 and 123.161.171.110 per this and this edit. May I also suggest a ban on all future edits by ISP accounts beginning with 123.161 in light of the above.Wingwraith (talk) 22:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

--O1lI0 (talk) 22:53, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * See Tianshui
 * Thanks both, I concur that those additional five definitely appear to be the same user. Also added 123.161.169.191. Citobun (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * See Talk:Tibet Autonomous Region & Talk:Taiwan & [Category:Paleontology in Tibet]
 * This account feels like it was stolen or is not used by the original user.This may be a zombie account used as a sock puppet.--O1lI0 (talk) 09:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This account feels like it was stolen or is not used by the original user.This may be a zombie account used as a sock puppet.--O1lI0 (talk) 09:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This account feels like it was stolen or is not used by the original user.This may be a zombie account used as a sock puppet.--O1lI0 (talk) 09:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This account feels like it was stolen or is not used by the original user.This may be a zombie account used as a sock puppet.--O1lI0 (talk) 09:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)



The ISP beginning in 171. is also from Puyang, Henan as with the other IPs previously appearing in this SPI. Same obsession with PRC vs China vs mainland China naming in edits. Caradhras Aiguo (talk) 02:47, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Great work! I strongly suggest you reporting all the users whose political views differ from yours and continuing your purge. 222.88.208.184 (talk) 06:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * If by "all the users" you mean sockpuppets of the blocked user Whaterss, then yes, I will continue reporting. Citobun (talk) 06:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, currently we've got 9 IPs, only one to go to come to 10. Don't abort your campaign halfway, please. --222.88.208.184 (talk) 14:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I've semiprotected a few articles due to edit warring and IP socking, per a complaint at WP:AN3. Based on the complaint, I could see an argument for blocking Special:Contributions/123.161.0.0/16 though I didn't take the time to verify that all edits from this range are the same person. If it is truly one person using multiple IPs then I'd support the rangeblock. EdJohnston (talk) 03:17, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Less than a /16 should also work. It seems that a block of Special:Contributions/123.161.164.0/20 would be just as effective. See an example from 2017 where Whaterss signs his name to an IP comment made by 123.161.168.141. EdJohnston (talk) 12:52, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * While I hate to admit that a sock produces constructive edits, the reality is, Whaterss' IP socks continue to attract other IPs to engage in edit warring with Whaterss. See this HKSAR-related article. Whaterss edit (appears to be constructive); possible IP sock reverting. Caradhras Aiguo (talk) 05:18, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't follow your logic by Whaterss' IP socks continue to attract other IPs to engage in edit warring with Whaterss. P.S. Please tell me if it's wrong to restore legitimate and necessary non-English content on Wikipedia? --123.161.168.233 (talk) 05:23, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I did not hear that. Caradhras Aiguo (talk) 05:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP's now stale. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 01:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)